Eric,
LET IT DIE!
This list was almost back to being civil. Why don’t you take the worms
and go fish some place else.
Larry - N7FM
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[eric.fort.listmail] eric.fort.listmail
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August 28Yes it is a missed opportunity, but all he has to do is take the new,
revised, and better open source code written by others and include it in
his closed version And he gets the best of both by means of what is
essentially theft. Until someone with real $$$& to make something of it
legally in the courts to enforce the gpl he wins. It may be time to
settle this once and for all and defend the gpl which it’s licensed
under but who is going to put up the $$$$ to make the challenge.Af6ep
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August 28I think this is a missed opportunity for HamVoIP. David seems to have
put a lot of effort into the product, but it could be so much better if
others could contribute. At this point, I’m not sure what is to be
gained by withholding the source code. Eventually other distributions
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[Pierre_Martel] Pierre_Martel
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August 28That is why I will always ask for source from them. If we play as a team
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August 28I think this is a missed opportunity for HamVoIP. David seems to have
put a lot of effort into the product, but it could be so much better if
others could contribute. At this point, I’m not sure what is to be
gained by withholding the source code. Eventually other distributions
will match HamVoIP’s feature set and even surpass it. HamVoIP will be
ineligible to integrate those GPL protected contributions without
opening its source or re-basing. We’d all get to a better place a whole
lot sooner if we worked together.[Pierre_Martel] Pierre_Martel
https://community.allstarlink.org/u/pierre_martel
August 27The term “public domain” refers to creative materials that are not
protected by intellectual property laws such as copyright, trademark, or
patent laws. The public owns these works, not an individual author or
artist. Anyone can use a public domain work without obtaining
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[Pierre_Martel] Pierre_Martel
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August 27“The technologies,software,hardware,designs,drawing,schematics,board
layouts and/or artwork,concepts,methodologies (including the use of all
of these,and that which derived from the use of all these), all other
intellectual properties, contained herein,and all intellectual property
rights have been and shall continue to be expressly for the benefit of
all mankind, and are perpetually placed in the public domain, and may be
used, copied, and/or modified by anyone, in any manner, for any legal
purpose, without restriction.”So where are the sources for the hamvoip distro so that I can modify
what is public domain as it is clearly stated that " The
technologies,software,hardware,designs,drawing,schematics,board layouts
and/or artwork,concepts,methodologies (including the use of all of
these,and that which derived from the use of all these), all other
intellectual properties, contained herein,and all intellectual property
rights have been and shall continue to be expressly for the benefit of
all mankind…" do mean that the code that use app_rpt or dirived from is
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[David_McGough] David_McGough
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August 27Jim Dixon included a document WITH EVERY SOURCE CODE RELEASE that
dedicated app_rpt and all supporting technologies to the public domain.
This is the purest form of Open Source. For reference, take a look at
the statement at the bottom of this file, which was part of the XIPAR
release:XIPAR_Asterisk/apps/rpt_flow.pdf at master · ajpaul25/XIPAR_Asterisk · GitHub
If these were not Jim’s true wishes, why did this document exist? This
file was even included with Digium’s source releases! It was always in
Jim’s personal SVN code tree, for which he allowed me to clone, before
he passed. Why wasn’t this file removed or updated, if his wishes
changed?? —He clearly had direct control of his SVN repository.Your comments come down to the trying to pull the wacky US political
“cancel culture” into the mix. If history and truth doesn’t align with
the “party line” that is being pushed, well cancel it. The solution is
simple: Just apologize, accept “the truth” and do it “our way” and all
will be fine. I’m disappointed.Not much surprises me any more. As I’ve always stated: The HamVoIP
release will continue to be freely available for use in any legal
purpose, as per Jim’s wishes.73, David KB4FXC
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