| kc1kcc
August 28 |
I think this is a missed opportunity for HamVoIP. David seems to have put a lot of effort into the product, but it could be so much better if others could contribute. At this point, I’m not sure what is to be gained by withholding the source code. Eventually other distributions will match HamVoIP’s feature set and even surpass it. HamVoIP will be ineligible to integrate those GPL protected contributions without opening its source or re-basing. We’d all get to a better place a whole lot sooner if we worked together.
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| Pierre_Martel
August 27 |
The term “public domain” refers to creative materials that are not protected by intellectual property laws such as copyright, trademark, or patent laws. The public owns these works, not an individual author or artist. Anyone can use a public domain work without obtaining permission, but no one can ever own it.
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| Pierre_Martel
August 27 |
“The technologies,software,hardware,designs,drawing,schematics,board layouts and/or artwork,concepts,methodologies (including the use of all of these,and that which derived from the use of all these), all other intellectual properties, contained herein,and all intellectual property rights have been and shall continue to be expressly for the benefit of all mankind, and are perpetually placed in the public domain, and may be used, copied, and/or modified by anyone, in any manner, for any legal purpose, without restriction.”
So where are the sources for the hamvoip distro so that I can modify what is public domain as it is clearly stated that " The technologies,software,hardware,designs,drawing,schematics,board layouts and/or artwork,concepts,methodologies (including the use of all of these,and that which derived from the use of all these), all other intellectual properties, contained herein,and all intellectual property rights have been and shall continue to be expressly for the benefit of all mankind…" do mean that the code that use app_rpt or dirived from is supposed to be public domain.
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| David_McGough
August 27 |
Jim Dixon included a document WITH EVERY SOURCE CODE RELEASE that dedicated app_rpt and all supporting technologies to the public domain. This is the purest form of Open Source. For reference, take a look at the statement at the bottom of this file, which was part of the XIPAR release:
https://github.com/ajpaul25/XIPAR_Asterisk/blob/master/apps/rpt_flow.pdf
If these were not Jim’s true wishes, why did this document exist? This file was even included with Digium’s source releases! It was always in Jim’s personal SVN code tree, for which he allowed me to clone, before he passed. Why wasn’t this file removed or updated, if his wishes changed?? —He clearly had direct control of his SVN repository.
Your comments come down to the trying to pull the wacky US political “cancel culture” into the mix. If history and truth doesn’t align with the “party line” that is being pushed, well cancel it. The solution is simple: Just apologize, accept “the truth” and do it “our way” and all will be fine. I’m disappointed.
Not much surprises me any more. As I’ve always stated: The HamVoIP release will continue to be freely available for use in any legal purpose, as per Jim’s wishes.
73, David KB4FXC
| kk6qms
August 27 |
Selfish thieves in denial using distraction to avoid the simple fact that taking open source code and closing it is wrong and harmful to the community.
“…enjoy yourself, this is a hobby.” - irrelevant misdirection.
“There are several different AllStar solutions available and that’s a good thing.” - yes, and they should all be open source benefiting the community as Jim Dixon intended and the license requires.
“Don’t get distracted listening to QRN…” - ie.:Don’t get distracted by the truth and by the fact you are using stolen code and slowing development of a project intended to serve all hams. You sound like Trump- if you just keep distracting and telling the lies over and over many people will believe you or just give up. This changes nothing and you still are in the wrong and should be ashamed. Apologize and open the code. You are a disgrace to the ham community but redemption and repair are easily attained. So far you have shown neither the humility nor strength of character to do what is right.
| wd6awp ASL Admin
August 27 |
Don’t worry, be happy while I take the hard work of others and don’t give back. What a disgrace!
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