Shared repeater tone panel

Kc2irv · July 22, 2016, 3:29pm

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Telesistant · July 22, 2016, 3:53pm

Why yes…

chan_usbradio was, from the beginning, designed to do exactly that.

You can give it a list of CTCSS tones for receive, and corresponding tones for TX.

You must also specify a ‘default’ tx tone (if there is no input).

Jim

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Subject: [App_rpt-users] Shared repeater tone panel

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output
PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Bob_Pyke · July 22, 2016, 5:06pm

Sounds like you want the repeater to open for any, or a subset of PL tones, the broadcast the received tone. If you get it to work, what do you expect to happen when multiple folks use the repeater at once? They won't hear each other unless two are using it at once. There Is still only one audio path through the repeater.

Thanks,
k6ecm
73

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Joe Moskalski <kc2irv@gmail.com> wrote:

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.
If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
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Steve_Mahler · July 22, 2016, 5:10pm

Joe:

  I've done this, it is working great in testing.� Here are the

parts …

  1) APP_RPT doesn't support all PL tones (ACID Distribution) ... I

believe that this is the valid decode list (any PL can be
transmitted) …

PL
NOTES
�
�
67.0
�
69.3
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
69.4
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
71.9
�
74.4
�
77.0
�
79.7
�
82.5
�
85.4
�
88.5
�
91.5
�
94.8

97.4
�
100.0
�
103.5

107.2
�
110.9
�
114.8

118.8
DO
NOT USE - 60 Hz Harmonic
123.0
�
127.3

131.8
DO
NOT USE - DCS Turn Off Code
136.5
DO
NOT USE - DCS Turn Off Code
141.3

146.2
�
151.4
�
156.7
�
159.8
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
162.2
�
165.5
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
167.9
�
171.3
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
173.8
�
177.3
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
179.9
DO
NOT USE - 60 Hz harmonic
183.5
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
186.2
�
189.9
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
192.8
�
196.6
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
199.5
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
203.5
�
206.5
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
210.7
�
218.1
�
225.7
�
229.1
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP
233.6
�
241.8
�
250.3
�
254.1
Not
Available in AllStar RX DSP

  2) The method to associate RX and TX tones and have valid decode

of certain PLs� in usbradio.conf� is …

;

  ; CTCSS / PL TONES

  txctcssdefault= 103.5�� ; default tx ctcss freq, any frequency

permitted, used when RX is quiet

  rxctcssfreqs= 67.0,88.5,103.5,136.5,192.8,250.3

  ����������������������� ; rx ctcss freqs in floating point. must

be in table

  txctcssfreqs= 67.0,88.5,103.5,103.5,192.8,250.3

  ����������������������� ; tx ctcss freqs, any frequency permitted

  ;

  ; RECEIVER CONTROLS

  ;

  rxctcssoverride=0������ ; Set to 1 or yes to start out in carrier

squelch mode

  rxctcssrelax=0��������� ; reduce talkoff from radios w/o CTCSS Tx

HPF

  ;���������������������� ; (help radios with DTMF Twist)

  ** Note, you can cross PLs ... when the above receives 136.5 it

transmits 103.5

  Like I said, so far it has all worked ... just feed voice and PL

from the discriminator to the AllStar server.� Good Luck!

…STeve - KF5VH

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On 7/22/2016 10:29 AM, Joe Moskalski
wrote:

        I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done
easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from
CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using
app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of
multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the
repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on
the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it
transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

      If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be
accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!




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Kc2irv · July 22, 2016, 5:21pm

Yes, I understand this. this isn’t going to be a ham repeater where people are yaking for 5 minutes at a time. Its going to be for a GMRS system. Community repeaters were a pretty common thing with using multiple tones for different customers on a commercial system. Its basicly the same as having multiple talk groups on the same DMR time slot. Since I now know this is easily done, I just need to find the information on how to do it. I know the comments in usbradio.conf refer to a tone table, I just need to find out what/where that is and how it is implemented.

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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Bob Pyke k6ecm1@gmail.com wrote:

Sounds like you want the repeater to open for any, or a subset of PL tones, the broadcast the received tone. If you get it to work, what do you expect to happen when multiple folks use the repeater at once? They won’t hear each other unless two are using it at once. There Is still only one audio path through the repeater.

Thanks,

k6ecm

73

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Joe Moskalski kc2irv@gmail.com wrote:

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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Pierre_Martel · July 22, 2016, 5:34pm

on commercial radio there is usely an option for busy channel to prevent tx. Some ham radio also have it

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Le vendredi 22 juillet 2016, Bob Pyke k6ecm1@gmail.com a écrit :

Sounds like you want the repeater to open for any, or a subset of PL tones, the broadcast the received tone. If you get it to work, what do you expect to happen when multiple folks use the repeater at once? They won’t hear each other unless two are using it at once. There Is still only one audio path through the repeater.

Thanks,

k6ecm

73

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Joe Moskalski kc2irv@gmail.com wrote:

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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Kc2irv · July 22, 2016, 6:32pm

Thank you very much, this example answers my question exactly. I will test and play with it and see how it works for my situation.

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On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Pierre Martel petem001@gmail.com wrote:

on commercial radio there is usely an option for busy channel to prevent tx. Some ham radio also have it

Le vendredi 22 juillet 2016, Bob Pyke k6ecm1@gmail.com a écrit :

Sounds like you want the repeater to open for any, or a subset of PL tones, the broadcast the received tone. If you get it to work, what do you expect to happen when multiple folks use the repeater at once? They won’t hear each other unless two are using it at once. There Is still only one audio path through the repeater.

Thanks,

k6ecm

73

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On Jul 22, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Joe Moskalski kc2irv@gmail.com wrote:

I have a need to setup a community repeater. This is done easily with a shared repeater tone panel and the like from CSI. I was wondering if this could be accomplished using app_rpt. All it would need to do is allow the use of multiple input and output PL tones. Simply put, when the repeater receives X pl tone it transmits the X pl tone on the output and when the repeater receives Y pl tone it transmits the Y pl tone on the output.

If anyone has done this or has any idea on how this would be accomplished it would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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