RTCM voting setup

Does anyone know the correct settings for the RTCM in a voting configuration?

Menus

8 - GPS Data Protocol (0=NMEA, 1=TSIP) (0)

9 - GPS Serial Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted) (0)

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

I believe 8 is correct I know the baud rate is 4800 tested it on the garmin software -

not sure about the serial polarity/PPS polarity - I believe it is hooked up correctly -

the time shows not set on the RTCM, and I lose connection to the allstar/asterisk box -

once I set PPS polarity to 2 then it reconnects - this is setup as the master site for now -

Right now they are both on the same LAN -

If anyone has any other example configs for voter.conf, etc that would be great too, make sure there isn’t some other setting for it.

73s

Mark

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

···

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

Right I have a garmin 18x lvc trying to get it going as a voting site… first one…

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On Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

You need to have two GPS’ in order to vote. One for the master site and one remote.

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Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

Right I have a garmin 18x lvc trying to get it going as a voting site… first one…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

I just wanted to be sure everything was working before I buy a second RTCM and GPS… is there any other way to at least verify the GPS is working with this RTCM? As even the clock is never set…

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On Apr 19, 2014 8:59 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

You need to have two GPS’ in order to vote. One for the master site and one remote.

Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

Right I have a garmin 18x lvc trying to get it going as a voting site… first one…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

You can always use the voter-demo.allstarlink.org server to test it.

Jim

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2014 09:51:35 -0700
From: markjohnston73@gmail.com
To: tim.sawyer@mac.com
CC: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM voting setup

I just wanted to be sure everything was working before I buy a second RTCM and GPS… is there any other way to at least verify the GPS is working with this RTCM? As even the clock is never set…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:59 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

You need to have two GPS’ in order to vote. One for the master site and one remote.

Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

Right I have a garmin 18x lvc trying to get it going as a voting site… first one…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)


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The clock should be set. Something must be wrong. The GPS light and the Host light should both come on.

···


Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

I just wanted to be sure everything was working before I buy a second RTCM and GPS… is there any other way to at least verify the GPS is working with this RTCM? As even the clock is never set…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:59 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

You need to have two GPS’ in order to vote. One for the master site and one remote.

Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

Right I have a garmin 18x lvc trying to get it going as a voting site… first one…

On Apr 19, 2014 8:26 AM, “Tim Sawyer” tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

Having the PPS Polarity set to 2 tells the RTCM you do not have a GPS. That forces the RTCM to become a mix (non-voting) client. Turn it on, save it and restart. A simple voter.conf would look like this.

[general]

port = 667

password = BLAH

[1000]

Site1 = pswrd1,master,transmit

Site2 = pswrd2,transmit

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 1:23 AM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (0)

2 - VOTER Server Address (FQDN) (voter-demo.allstarlink.org)

3 - VOTER Server Port (667), 4 - Local Port (Override) (0)

5 - Client Password (rptnopl), 6 - Host Password (rptnopl)

7 - Tx Buffer Length (3000)

8 - GPS Data Protocol (0=NMEA, 1=TSIP) (0)

9 - GPS Serial Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted) (0)

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (2)

11 - GPS Baud Rate (4800)

12 - External CTCSS (0=Ignore, 1=Non-Inverted, 2=Inverted) (1)

13 - COR Type (0=Normal, 1=IGNORE COR, 2=No Receiver) (1)

14 - Debug Level (9)

15 - Alt. VOTER Server Address (FQDN) ()

16 - Alt. VOTER Server Port (Override) (0)

17 - DSP/BEW Mode NOT SUPPORTED

18 - “Duplex Mode 3” (0=DISABLED, 1-255 Hang Time) (1/10 secs) (0)

19 - Simulcast Launch Delay (0) (approx 200 ns, 5 = 1us, > 0 to ENA SC)

97 - RX Level, 98 - Status, 99 - Save Values to EEPROM

i - IP Parameters menu, o - Offline Mode Parameters menu

q - Disconnect Remote Console Session, r - reboot system, d - diagnostics

Enter Selection (1-27,97-99,r,q,d) : Using Primary Voter Host (72.0.177.212)

Voter Host DNS Resolved to 96.36.57.202

Connection Using Voter Host (96.36.57.202)

Using Primary Voter Host (96.36.57.202)

Select the following Diagnostic functions:

1 - Set Initial Tone Level (and assert PTT)

2 - Display Value of DIP Switches

3 - Flash LED’s in sequence

4 - Run entire diag suite

c - Show Diagnostic Cable Pinouts

x - Exit Diagnostic Menu (back to main menu)

q - Disconnect Remote Console Session, r - reboot system

Enter Selection (1-4,c,x,q,r) : 4^M

Running Diagnostics…

Testing PTT/External CTCSS

Error - Failed to read PTT/CTCSS in un-asserted state

Testing GPS UART

Error - Failed to read data from GPS UART

Testing level at 100 Hz for Normal Audio

^C

Select the following Diagnostic functions:

— No the LED’s do not come on for GPS/HST

rechecked the wiring all looks right

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa

GPPS pin 7 is labeled as PTT out in the documentation - not sure what that means, I thought it was Gps 1pps?

http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf

P2 - DB15F D-Shell connector for the RS-232 (console @57600 bps, DCE) and GPS

1 - NC

2 - Console Transmit Data

3 - Console Receive Data

4 - NC

5 - Gnd

6 - GPS Receive Data (to White TXD on - GPS)

7 - PTT Out (to Yellow Measurement Pulse output - on GPS)

8 - Gnd (to Black - on GPS) all appear common -

9 - NC

10 - Console Request To Send (RTS)

11 - Console Clear To Send (CTS)

12 - NC

13 - GPS Power Output (5Vdc @ 800ma MAX) - (Red on - GPS)

14 - GPS Transmit Data (to green RCV on - GPS)

15 – External Reset

And Yes the gps works fine in windows - not sure what I am missing -

I think that’s the problem. Reverse them.

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Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa

Mark,

The GPS 18x LVC is not hooked up to the RTCM correctly. The Garmin pin labeling is backwards to what you think. I learned this by trial and error on my setup. See below. Swap 6 and 14.

RTCM
GPS 18x LVC
6
GRX

Rx Data
6
Green
7
GPPS

Pulse Output
1
Yellow
8
GND
Ground
3
Black
8
GND
Ground
5
Black
13
+5V

Vin
2
Red
14
GTX

TX Data
4
White

Then log into the rtcm and do 98 and you should see this

Current Time: Sun Apr 20, 2014 04:37:02.820

Last Rx Pkt System time: 04/20/2014 03:55:35.580, diff: 2487260 msec

Last Rx Pkt Timestamp time: 04/20/2014 03:55:32.064, diff: 3515 msec

Last Rx Pkt index: 160, inbounds: 1

You change your debug mode to 40 and see the gps setences

Mike

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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

2 - VOTER Server Address (FQDN) (voter-demo.allstarlink.org)

3 - VOTER Server Port (667), 4 - Local Port (Override) (0)

5 - Client Password (rptnopl), 6 - Host Password (rptnopl)

7 - Tx Buffer Length (3000)

8 - GPS Data Protocol (0=NMEA, 1=TSIP) (0)

9 - GPS Serial Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted) (0)

10 - GPS PPS Polarity (0=Non-Inverted, 1=Inverted, 2=NONE) (2)

11 - GPS Baud Rate (4800)

12 - External CTCSS (0=Ignore, 1=Non-Inverted, 2=Inverted) (1)

13 - COR Type (0=Normal, 1=IGNORE COR, 2=No Receiver) (1)

14 - Debug Level (9)

15 - Alt. VOTER Server Address (FQDN) ()

16 - Alt. VOTER Server Port (Override) (0)

17 - DSP/BEW Mode NOT SUPPORTED

18 - “Duplex Mode 3” (0=DISABLED, 1-255 Hang Time) (1/10 secs) (0)

19 - Simulcast Launch Delay (0) (approx 200 ns, 5 = 1us, > 0 to ENA SC)

97 - RX Level, 98 - Status, 99 - Save Values to EEPROM

i - IP Parameters menu, o - Offline Mode Parameters menu

q - Disconnect Remote Console Session, r - reboot system, d - diagnostics

Enter Selection (1-27,97-99,r,q,d) : Using Primary Voter Host (72.0.177.212)

Voter Host DNS Resolved to 96.36.57.202

Connection Using Voter Host (96.36.57.202)

Using Primary Voter Host (96.36.57.202)

Select the following Diagnostic functions:

1 - Set Initial Tone Level (and assert PTT)

2 - Display Value of DIP Switches

3 - Flash LED’s in sequence

4 - Run entire diag suite

c - Show Diagnostic Cable Pinouts

x - Exit Diagnostic Menu (back to main menu)

q - Disconnect Remote Console Session, r - reboot system

Enter Selection (1-4,c,x,q,r) : 4^M

Running Diagnostics…

Testing PTT/External CTCSS

Error - Failed to read PTT/CTCSS in un-asserted state

Testing GPS UART

Error - Failed to read data from GPS UART

Testing level at 100 Hz for Normal Audio

^C

Select the following Diagnostic functions:

— No the LED’s do not come on for GPS/HST

rechecked the wiring all looks right

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa

GPPS pin 7 is labeled as PTT out in the documentation - not sure what that means, I thought it was Gps 1pps?

http://206.212.254.21/unode_docs/rtcm_%20manual.pdf

P2 - DB15F D-Shell connector for the RS-232 (console @57600 bps, DCE) and GPS

1 - NC

2 - Console Transmit Data

3 - Console Receive Data

4 - NC

5 - Gnd

6 - GPS Receive Data (to White TXD on - GPS)

7 - PTT Out (to Yellow Measurement Pulse output - on GPS)

8 - Gnd (to Black - on GPS) all appear common -

9 - NC

10 - Console Request To Send (RTS)

11 - Console Clear To Send (CTS)

12 - NC

13 - GPS Power Output (5Vdc @ 800ma MAX) - (Red on - GPS)

14 - GPS Transmit Data (to green RCV on - GPS)

15 – External Reset

And Yes the gps works fine in windows - not sure what I am missing -


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GTX goes to TX Data

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On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tim Sawyer tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

I think that’s the problem. Reverse them.

Tim
:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa


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Hi all,

I need a voting repeater with one master site (duplex repeater) and one voting receiver. Both sites based on RTCMs. And server is a separate PC hasnt any
physical connection to radio.

Question: I need a 2 GPS receivers for RTCMs or I need 3 GPS (one for server) ?

Thanks!

Regards

Mihhail Jakovlev

On Behalf Of Michael Hebert

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GTX goes to TX Data

On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tim Sawyer tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

I think that’s the problem. Reverse them.

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa


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2 GPS receivers. The master site needs to be on the same subnet as the asterisk server.

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On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Mihhail Jakovlev mihhail.jakovlev@telegrupp.ee wrote:

Hi all,

I need a voting repeater with one master site (duplex repeater) and one voting receiver. Both sites based on RTCMs. And server is a separate PC hasnt any
physical connection to radio.

Question: I need a 2 GPS receivers for RTCMs or I need 3 GPS (one for server) ?

Thanks!

Regards

Mihhail Jakovlev

From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org]
On Behalf Of Michael Hebert
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:42 AM
To: Tim Sawyer
Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] RTCM voting setup

GTX goes to TX Data

On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Tim Sawyer tim.sawyer@mac.com wrote:

I think that’s the problem. Reverse them.

Tim

:wq

On Apr 19, 2014, at 8:55 PM, Mark Johnston markjohnston73@gmail.com wrote:

assuming GTX is transmit that goes to the GPS rx line and vice versa


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