[pcrepeatercontroller] Re: Analog Repeater Weatherinformation

Petem001 · December 26, 2011, 3:09am

You seem to dislike every onboard audio device…

are they all bad?

···

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio
for connection to a radio on an Allstar node…

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

nope, too bad…

got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it… and of course it have sound… 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker… I have hope that this could work…

I have a 20 gig hd in there… but i dont think it will last long… I can hear it click from time to time…

I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive… this will fit in the case and will work I am sure… but I will do my test with the hd first…

just in case I cant make it work

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access??

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

got 8 of the t5630 to play with…

plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet… all free…

So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware

From: Randy Hammock

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM

To: pete M

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don’t have time to really mess with it.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M petem001@hotmail.com wrote:

Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode…

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you
have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot?

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work…

too bad…

Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun…

ordered them on the 2nd of december… still nothing … Grrinnn!!

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The “via” version is ONLY
for a couple of VIA motherboards.

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Ok, so its not something about the uri.

what could it be?

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

it has nothing do with the URI at all.

Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE.

JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Finally got Limey on the machine…

(Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it…)

Limey wont boot properly, it stop at :

isapnp:No plug & Play device found

So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting.

I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor… too bad, will have to find something else…

Unless someone ahve a solution ;-))))

that would be a very nice xmass present ;-))

Pierre

VE2PF

From: Tim Sawyer

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM

To: pete M

Cc: APP RPT

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I’m not sure where your removable media will be… maybe in /dev/disk/something?

–
Tim
:wq

On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote:

ok ,

I have some problem here…

Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive.

so I have to do it from the machine itself.

so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick.

I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing..

So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is..

I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better…

Anyone can help??

And By the way

Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list

Pierre Martel

VE2PF

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine
it emperically.  Download the following image:

http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.gz

and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent).

If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works.

Otherwise, it doesnt.

JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive)

they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device

I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node..

I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s.

If possible, how to i build the thing??

I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable..

So is it possible or am I dreaming?

forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine

you can see the spec there:

http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01571963.pdf

Pierre

VE2PF

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Telesistant · December 26, 2011, 3:31am

There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device
being miserably awful.

We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality
(and consistency thereof) is quite important.

JIM

···

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

You seem to dislike every onboard audio device…

are they all bad?

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio
for connection to a radio on an Allstar node…

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

nope, too bad…

got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it… and of course it have sound… 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker… I have hope that this could work…

I have a 20 gig hd in there… but i dont think it will last long… I can hear it click from time to time…

I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive… this will fit in the case and will work I am sure… but I will do my test with the hd first…

just in case I cant make it work

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access??

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

got 8 of the t5630 to play with…

plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet… all free…

So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware

From: Randy Hammock

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM

To: pete M

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don’t have time to really mess with it.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M petem001@hotmail.com wrote:

Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode…

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you
have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot?

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work…

too bad…

Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun…

ordered them on the 2nd of december… still nothing … Grrinnn!!

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The “via” version is ONLY
for a couple of VIA motherboards.

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Ok, so its not something about the uri.

what could it be?

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

it has nothing do with the URI at all.

Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE.

JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Finally got Limey on the machine…

(Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it…)

Limey wont boot properly, it stop at :

isapnp:No plug & Play device found

So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting.

I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor… too bad, will have to find something else…

Unless someone ahve a solution ;-))))

that would be a very nice xmass present ;-))

Pierre

VE2PF

From: Tim Sawyer

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM

To: pete M

Cc: APP RPT

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task. That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I’m not sure where your removable media will be… maybe in /dev/disk/something?

–
Tim
:wq

On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote:

ok ,

I have some problem here…

Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive.

so I have to do it from the machine itself.

so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick.

I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing..

So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is..

I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better…

Anyone can help??

And By the way

Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list

Pierre Martel

VE2PF

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine
it emperically.  Download the following image:

http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.gz

and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent).

If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works.

Otherwise, it doesnt.

JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive)

they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device

I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node..

I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s.

If possible, how to i build the thing??

I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable..

So is it possible or am I dreaming?

forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine

you can see the spec there:

http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01571963.pdf

Pierre

VE2PF

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George_Csahanin · December 26, 2011, 6:00am

$0.02 from Central Tejas…the consistancy and quality of the audio using the CM108(type) device is very good. My link to W8VT sounds like a non-repeated, linked one, it’s excellent. GE radio my end, Motorola his end. There is a connection usually to my node by an Echolink guy, who, in turn connects to other Echolink people, and that audio is pure trash. And all over teh place as to response and levels. Some of these guys literally adjust via speaker level till it “sounds right”, and use VOX instead of decoding/using COS, etc. Echolink has no control of the users.

There’s a reason to keep it all the same, as long it doesn’t get as restrictive as certain other systems.

I was tempted to use on board audio on a private link, which never connects to allstar, but eventually didn’t want to re-invent any wheels, and found a bunch of CM108 fobs for $6.95 each delivered.

GeorgeC

W2DB

near, but NOT IN Austin

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Jim Duuuude

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 9:31 PM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device
being miserably awful.

We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality
(and consistency thereof) is quite important.

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

You seem to dislike every onboard audio device…

are they all bad?

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:35 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, as long as you have no intentions of using the built-in audio
for connection to a radio on an Allstar node…

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

nope, too bad…

got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even have a KB attach to it… and of course it have sound… 3 jack one for mic one line in and one for speaker… I have hope that this could work…

I have a 20 gig hd in there… but i dont think it will last long… I can hear it click from time to time…

I will order a ide 44 pin to cf adaptor and a 4 gb flsh drive… this will fit in the case and will work I am sure… but I will do my test with the hd first…

just in case I cant make it work

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 6:19 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

i dont suppose you have some sort of KVM device that supports remote access??

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:45:24 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

got 8 of the t5630 to play with…

plus a t5730 and a hp t1100 tablet… all free…

So I will work on all this for fun,hoping to do crazy thing with such cute hardware

From: Randy Hammock

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 5:42 PM

To: pete M

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I tried doing the same on one of the thin clients. A friend gave it to me as she was no longer using it for MagicJack. It had the fast processor, 512MB flash drive and 512MB RAM. has no trouble installing LL but would not boot. Did not really expect it to. I gave the computer to some one else to use with a Magic Jack after reinstalling WinXPe (Windows XP embedded). Don’t have time to really mess with it.

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, pete M petem001@hotmail.com > wrote:
Cannot be more sure then that, its the only ide connector and the flash drive can’t be put in slave mode..

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:50 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

well, for whatever its worth, are you at least sure that you
have the flash drive plugged into the IDE0 slot?

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:49:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Thnaks Jim, I do have a VIA MB, looks like it wont work…

too bad…

Now If those 4 gig flash drive would arrived it would be fun…

ordered them on the 2nd of december… still nothing … Grrinnn!!

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:46 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Limey only supports VERY specific motherboards. The "via" version is ONLY
for a couple of VIA motherboards.

JIM

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 10:43:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Ok, so its not something about the uri.

what could it be?

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:27 AM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

it has nothing do with the URI at all.
Besides, DONT USE ONBOARD AUDIO. Its quality is NOT ACCEPTIBLE.
JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 00:49:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Finally got Limey on the machine…

(Did it with ubuntu live cd , took sometime to figure out where the damn drive was hidden but I got it..)

Limey wont boot properly, it stop at :

isapnp:No plug & Play device found

So from what I understand, since it wont see a URI connected to the machine, it wont continu booting.

I dont want to use a URI i want to use the onboard audio and the onboard serial port for ptt/cor.. too bad, will have to find something else..

Unless someone ahve a solution ;-))))

that would be a very nice xmass present ;-))

Pierre

VE2PF

From: Tim Sawyer

Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 11:21 PM

To: pete M

Cc: APP RPT

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

I built a ribbon cable with two 44 pin connectors on it for just that task.  That way I can use my Mac. On CentOS I'm not sure where your removable media will be... maybe in /dev/disk/something?

–
Tim
:wq

On Dec 24, 2011, at 11:27 AM, pete M wrote:

ok ,

I have some problem here…

  Since my t5630 flash drive have a connector that is exactly like the connector that usely is on the end of a ide 44 pin cable I cant connect it to my usb adaptor and dd the limey image to the flash drive.

so I have to do it from the machine itself.

  so to do so I downloaded ubuntu live cd to boot from a dvd reader and I have limey tar file on a usb stick.

  I try to find where the hell in monted the damn ide flash disk and just cant.. I do have an Icone on the desktop but its a symlink and cant find where its pointing..

  So I am right now downloading the centos 5.5 live dvd, hoping it will be more clear where the damn thing is..

I tried ide0 no go, ide1 not better…

Anyone can help??

And By the way

  Have a merry Xmass to everyone on the list

Pierre Martel

VE2PF

From: Jim Duuuude

Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 3:55 PM

To: petem001@hotmail.com ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

  The probably easiest way to get an answer to your question is to determine
  it emperically.  Download the following image:

http://stats.allstarlink.org/limeylinux/downloads/cfimg-i586-via-1.1.5.tar.gz

  and IMAGE copy it (after un-tarring) to the flash drive (using dd or equivalent).

  If it boots, and "talks" to the ethernet, etc, then it works.

Otherwise, it doesnt.

JIM WB6NIL

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:46:27 -0500
Subject: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client
  I Have a few T5630 thin client that was donated to me (spec: 1ghz CPU , 1 gig of ram, 1 Gig flash drive)

  they have a VIA chipset that have Video , network, and audio device

  I am wondering if I could use that thin client with Limey to do a Allstar node AND an echolink node..

  I would connect that to port 3 of my rc210 controler that I have for my 2 M and 70 cm repeater’s.

  If possible, how to i build the thing??

  I know a few thing about Linux but I am no way a guru.. I do prefer a windows machine, but I know that Linux in more stable..

  So is it possible or am I dreaming?

  forgot to tell you that there is a serial and printerl port to the machine

  you can see the spec there:

http://bizsupport2.austin.hp.com/bc/docs/support/SupportManual/c01571963/c01571963.pdf

Pierre

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Bbrown · December 26, 2011, 1:33pm

Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB
device for audio ,

Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations sound?

most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don't get me wrong there are
some fine sounding Echolink

systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and
set it up right.

But most use the "By Ear Method" and on-board audio they are all over the place.

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On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 21:31, Jim Duuuude <telesistant@hotmail.com> wrote:

There is probably at least a 50% chance of any given onboard audio device
being miserably awful.

We have technical standards that we need to stick to. Audio quality
(and consistency thereof) is quite important.

JIM

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From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:09:59 -0500

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

You seem to dislike every onboard audio device..

are they all bad?

From: petem001@hotmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 18:30:48 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

nope, too bad..

got my tc1100 working, Its a tablet pc that have
wifi/bluetooth/lan/modem/usb 1.0 and touch screen that run on 5 volt it even
have a KB attach to it.. and of course it have sound.. 3 jack one for mic
one line in and one for speaker.. I have hope that this could work..

Ke2n · December 26, 2011, 2:12pm

Hmmm

Well - everybody using the Web Transceiver (and iaxRpt) is using on-board
audio aren't they?

I have heard some very nice web transceiver audio (and some crappy audio).
A lot has to do with the microphone being used - and of course the level
must be set right.

The reason Echolink generally sounds like a bad cell phone call is that they
use the same codec - GSM whereas Asterisk (including the web transceiver)
uses ulaw - or at least you can configure it for that.
see

On top of that, the Echolink coding is converted from GSM to whatever you
are using on Asterisk between nodes (ulaw or g726). Passing a voice through
two different coding schemes will do double-damage to it.

ulaw provide a much nicer sound at the expense of more bandwidth - more than
twice the bandwidth of GSM. But over a standard internet connection, that is
rarely an issue these days.

73

Ken

···

-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org [mailto:app_rpt-users-
bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown - WØNQX
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:34 AM
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB
device for audio ,

Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations
sound?

most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don't get me wrong there are
some fine sounding Echolink

systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and set
it up right.

But most use the "By Ear Method" and on-board audio they are all over
the place.

Dshaw · December 26, 2011, 4:21pm

I like great audio quality that’s way I stopped using Echolink (with a sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my Allstar
but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards.

ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier. Does anyone use QOS on there router?

Anyways Audio Quality is always better.

David

···

On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Ken ke2n@cs.com wrote:

Hmmm

Well - everybody using the Web Transceiver (and iaxRpt) is using on-board

audio aren’t they?

I have heard some very nice web transceiver audio (and some crappy audio).

A lot has to do with the microphone being used - and of course the level

must be set right.

The reason Echolink generally sounds like a bad cell phone call is that they

use the same codec - GSM whereas Asterisk (including the web transceiver)

uses ulaw - or at least you can configure it for that.

see

http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/80

On top of that, the Echolink coding is converted from GSM to whatever you

are using on Asterisk between nodes (ulaw or g726). Passing a voice through

two different coding schemes will do double-damage to it.

ulaw provide a much nicer sound at the expense of more bandwidth - more than

twice the bandwidth of GSM. But over a standard internet connection, that is

rarely an issue these days.

73

Ken

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bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Bob Brown - WØNQX

Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 8:34 AM

To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Limey Linux on a HP T5630 Thin Client

Hence the reason why we use the the Allstar method of VOIP and the USB

device for audio ,

Do you really pay attention to how a lot of the Echolink stations

sound?

most use on-board audio , and it sucks, don’t get me wrong there are

some fine sounding Echolink

systems out there, that is because they used a service monitor and set

it up right.

But most use the “By Ear Method” and on-board audio they are all over

the place.

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Wa4zlw1 · December 26, 2011, 4:29pm

I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)

Leon Wa4ZLW

···

On 12/26/2011 11:21 AM, David KE6UPI wrote:

I like great audio quality that's way I stopped using Echolink (with a sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my Allstar but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards.

ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier. Does anyone use QOS on there router?

Anyways Audio Quality is always better.

David

KA3NAM · December 26, 2011, 4:59pm

Leon,

The there are really two reasons why QoS does not work over the internet. 1. Is that rarely anyone configures a router to participate in QoS (QoS can and is supported at layer 2 and layer 3)... 2. In the event someone wants to participate in QoS, what standard do they use? What p-bit/ DSCP value means VoIP vs best effort Internet traffic? MPLS is not required, and its QoS is based on the MPLS provider and the customer agreeing on how the traffic will be marked (p-bit/DSCP/VLAN etc.) I have layer 2 and layer 3 networks using QoS (including MPLS cores)... Works great when the switch/router manufacturer implements it properly (this includes MPLS switches)...

-Joe
KA3NAM

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On 12/26/2011 10:29 AM, Leon Zetekoff wrote:

I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)

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Telesistant · December 26, 2011, 4:59pm

I will say this once. Nicely.

THE DISCUSSION ABOUT ONBOARD AUDIO IS NOW OVER.

We have good reasons for doing this. Its not changing.
Its not open for discussion.

Thank you.

JIM WB6NIL

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Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:29:40 -0500
From: wa4zlw@backwoodswireless.net
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] on board audio

On 12/26/2011 11:21 AM, David KE6UPI wrote:

I like great audio quality that’s way I stopped using Echolink (with a
sound card) and went with Allstar. I have Echolink enabled on my
Allstar but dislike must Echolink connection because of the poor audio
quality and I will disconnect them quickly. I have also disconnected
Allstar (nodes and web transceiver) with poor audio. So I think
Allstar should have some kind of audio quality polices and standards.

ulaw at what 64kb/s v GSM 13kb/s over DSL or higher. Most internet is
unlimited anymore at high speeds unless your using a cell carrier.
Does anyone use QOS on there router?

Anyways Audio Quality is always better.

David
I always strived for good audio on my repeaters. But QOS does not work
over the internet, only MPLS circuits. If you are going over the
internet then you have to take what you get. (And I work in this field I
now work for Windstream, ex-PAETEC in managed services)

Leon Wa4ZLW

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