We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything. The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence.
This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS.
Using the Orca screen reader on Linux with Firefox, the login
page works okay. However, I can only find the entry fields with
the tab key. They do not show up when using the arrow keys to
navigate. Is this a pop-out form? Meaning: Is the form only
displayed when the mouse pointer is directly over the form area
after clicking the link?
@Buddy: Did you try routing the mouse pointer to your Voiceover
cursor, then clicking with your mouse/trackpad?
73,
Jeremy W0JRL
···
On 09/15/2018 11:36 AM, Buddy Brannan
wrote:
Howdy Tim,
Sounds like a good thing®.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure
whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be
broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything.
The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no
username/password fields in evidence.
on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to
eventually replace the original allstarlink.org
with a modern, secure, better looking and
more usable site. It 's not going very fast
but there has been progress. Just to update
everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal
so far.
list over the original. It has sort,
filter, pagination and links to the
stats pages.
There a new sign up page to
register with AllStar. It has a much
friendlier form and should assure more
accurate input.
There is a password reset
page. BTW, your login and password are
the same as on the original allstarlink
site as it’s accessing the same
database.
A new feature the original
site doesn’t have to change your
callsign. This is much easier for you as
well as admins which should get these
completed faster. If you request a
callsign change by email (the old way)
you’ll probably be asked to use the new
site for your request.
All of the normal admin
functions have been performed on this
site for nearly a year. You won’t see
these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile
devices using ‘mobile first’ coding
methods.
Secure login Cookie with
longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We
think you’ll really like the new nodes list.
Let us know if you find any bugs, typos,
spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You
could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is
coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap,
jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer
geek alphabet soup.
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whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be
broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything.
The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no
username/password fields in evidence.
on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to
eventually replace the original allstarlink.org
with a modern, secure, better looking and
more usable site. It 's not going very fast
but there has been progress. Just to update
everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal
so far.
list over the original. It has sort,
filter, pagination and links to the
stats pages.
There a new sign up page to
register with AllStar. It has a much
friendlier form and should assure more
accurate input.
There is a password reset
page. BTW, your login and password are
the same as on the original allstarlink
site as it’s accessing the same
database.
A new feature the original
site doesn’t have to change your
callsign. This is much easier for you as
well as admins which should get these
completed faster. If you request a
callsign change by email (the old way)
you’ll probably be asked to use the new
site for your request.
All of the normal admin
functions have been performed on this
site for nearly a year. You won’t see
these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile
devices using ‘mobile first’ coding
methods.
Secure login Cookie with
longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We
think you’ll really like the new nodes list.
Let us know if you find any bugs, typos,
spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You
could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is
coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap,
jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer
geek alphabet soup.
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Hmm. Well, that worked, but it only worked because I had my password stored in the browser. The form didn’t really read (which is more a Voiceover issue, I understand that). Anyway, I’m in, that’s the main thing, but I, at least, would prefer a page with an explicit login form.
···
On 09/15/2018 11:36 AM, Buddy Brannan
wrote:
Howdy Tim,
Sounds like a good thing®.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure
whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be
broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything.
The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no
username/password fields in evidence.
on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to
eventually replace the original allstarlink.org
with a modern, secure, better looking and
more usable site. It 's not going very fast
but there has been progress. Just to update
everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal
so far.
list over the original. It has sort,
filter, pagination and links to the
stats pages.
There a new sign up page to
register with AllStar. It has a much
friendlier form and should assure more
accurate input.
There is a password reset
page. BTW, your login and password are
the same as on the original allstarlink
site as it’s accessing the same
database.
A new feature the original
site doesn’t have to change your
callsign. This is much easier for you as
well as admins which should get these
completed faster. If you request a
callsign change by email (the old way)
you’ll probably be asked to use the new
site for your request.
All of the normal admin
functions have been performed on this
site for nearly a year. You won’t see
these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile
devices using ‘mobile first’ coding
methods.
Secure login Cookie with
longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We
think you’ll really like the new nodes list.
Let us know if you find any bugs, typos,
spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You
could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is
coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap,
jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer
geek alphabet soup.
App_rpt-users mailing list
App_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
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We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback.
This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome.
Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. I’d have to dig into it a little more to ascertain exactly why, but the modal doesn’t get focus or appear in the document tab order.
Rachel AD9O
···
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Hi Tim,
Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback.
‘Login’ on the menu changes to ‘Logout ’ upon successful login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan buddy@brannan.name wrote:
Howdy Tim,
Sounds like a good thing®.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything. The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence.
This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS.
We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
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They can. I’ll try to take a look tomorrow and pass on recommendations for a resolution.
···
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 22:59, Tim Sawyer wrote:
Copy that. Maybe screen readers can’t read modals. Don’t know. Post if you find something. TNX.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM Rachel Olivero rachel@olivero.us wrote:
Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy,
This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome.
Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. I’d have to dig into it a little more to ascertain exactly why, but the modal doesn’t get focus or appear in the document tab order.
Rachel AD9O
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Hi Tim,
Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback.
‘Login’ on the menu changes to ‘Logout ’ upon successful login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan buddy@brannan.name wrote:
Howdy Tim,
Sounds like a good thing®.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything. The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password fields in evidence.
This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS.
We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
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For Bootstrap websites, make sure that all of your collapsible or otherwise hidden elements are properly tied to a default-visible element using the aria-* elements. You have to define a linkage so the screenreader or other assistive technology
knows how to read into the element appearing.
I am by absolutely no means an accessibility expert in HTML but you don’t have any aria controls on the login menu. You should try something like:
And then in the modal login box change aria-labeledby to
aria-labeledby=”login-box-link”
to link the modal div back to the login link. You might need more adjustments to the modal code too. I’m used to aria labels for collapsible menus but never tried/tested with a pop-up modal. You might find the info at this link helpful: https://getbootstrap.com/docs/4.0/getting-started/accessibility/.
My one site https://megalink.network for an Allstar hub we’re working towards launching to the broader community uses Bootstrap 4 and was tested with someone using assistive technology. It seemed to
work in the one person’s testing who did it for me. If others have problems with navigating with a screenreader, I would appreciate a heads up off-list so I can fix it.
Jason N8JDM
On Behalf Of Tim Sawyer
···
Copy that. Maybe screen readers can’t read modals. Don’t know. Post if you find something. TNX.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 8:38 PM Rachel Olivero rachel@olivero.us wrote:
Tim, Buddy, and Jeremy,
This is also an issue with NVDA and JAWS on Windows and Chrome.
Tim, the present way the dialog behaves, a user of screen reading technology cannot find the input fields to enter a username and password. I’d have to dig into it a little more to ascertain
exactly why, but the modal doesn’t get focus or appear in the document tab order.
Rachel AD9O
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018, at 20:30, Buddy Brannan wrote:
Hi Tim,
Fair enough re: the change, which, indeed, I see once login is successfully achieved. Still, it is not very friendly to assistive technology like Voiceover. I should really try it with Windows
using NVDA and Chrome or Firefox just for comparison, also with the iOS version of Safari with Voiceover and Chrome on Android with Talkback.
‘Login’ on the menu changes to ‘Logout ’ upon successful login. One less dialog to dismiss that way and less verbose on purpose.
On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:36 AM Buddy Brannan buddy@brannan.name wrote:
Howdy Tim,
Sounds like a good thing®.
However, I seem to have an issue. I’m not sure whether it’s Voiceover related, browser related, or “it be broke” related. The login link doesn’t appear to do anything. The page doesn’t seem to change, and there are definitely no username/password
fields in evidence.
This seems to be true of both Safari and Google Chrome, both on Mac OS.
We’ve been working on a new AllStar portal. The goal is to eventually replace the original allstarlink.org with a modern, secure, better looking and more usable site. It 's not going very fast but there has been progress. Just to update everybody, here’s what’s on the new portal so far.
It has a much better nodes list over the original. It has sort, filter, pagination and links to the stats pages.
There a new sign up page to register with AllStar. It has a much friendlier form and should assure more accurate input.
There is a password reset page. BTW, your login and password are the same as on the original allstarlink site as it’s accessing the same database.
A new feature the original site doesn’t have to change your callsign. This is much easier for you as well as admins which should get these completed faster. If you request a callsign change by email (the old way) you’ll probably
be asked to use the new site for your request.
All of the normal admin functions have been performed on this site for nearly a year. You won’t see these unless you are an admin.
Works much better on mobile devices using ‘mobile first’ coding methods.
Secure login Cookie with longer expiration.
No more Flash. Yeah!
Please use this new site when you can. We think you’ll really like the new nodes list. Let us know if you find any bugs, typos, spelling errors, unclear wording, etc. You could
even let us know if you like it
PS. The site is coded in HTML 5 using Twitter Bootstrap, jQuery, pdo, jwt and other web developer geek alphabet soup.
You do not need a password to unsubscribe, you can do it via email confirmation. If you have trouble unsubscribing, please send a message to the list detailing the problem.
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