Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
You know, IPv6 would solve this.
But needs a newer version of asterisk....
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Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:31:51 -0800
From: Carl <carl@n7kuw.com>
Reply-To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
To: 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt' <app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org>
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If
so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers
(Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner
that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real”
internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you
a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know
what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
*From:*App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] *On
Behalf Of *Will Bashlor
*Sent:* Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
*To:* 'Users of Asterisk app_rpt'
*Subject:* [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit
not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time.
After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to
connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG <https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=196073504193006&ref=br_rs> AEC
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
Thanks David,
Hmm, interesting. I’m leaving in about 30 minutes so I’ll connect it now. Good idea and thanks…
And upon further inspection of my LTE connection to my iPhone, it has an LTE IP gateway of 100.100.x.x, which tells me CGN (Carrier Grade NAT) is being used. So yup, double NAT since my phone also hands out a private address. This is common practice since the exhaustion of IPv4 addresses.
More about CGN if you aren’t familiar:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier-grade_NAT
I will go ahead and connect up my hotspot and give it a shot. Thanks all…
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of David Shaw
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:31 PM
To: Users of Asterisk app_rpt app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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I’ll second David’s comment.
Will, you could make an exception on your HOME node in rpt.conf to bypass incoming authentication for your mobile node.
Under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx = ; where xxxx is the node number of your mobile node.
On your MOBILE node, add a route back to home, under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx = ; where xxxx is the node number of your HOME node. ** THIS ASSUMES YOU’RE USING PORT 4569 **
You may also find it better to switch to a lower bitrate codec. ULAW is terrible while /m GSM performs the best.
HTH
Peter
radio@127.0.0.1/xxxx,NONE
radio@xxxx.asnode.org/xxxx,NONE
On 15/11/2017 21:31, David Shaw wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about
an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor
will@bashlor.com wrote:Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however
port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and
it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical
pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a
network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run
into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon,
AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available
for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After
constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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On my AirCard (AT&T) I can forward ports. The AirCard is not a phone. But a WiFi hotspot. I have used the USB LTE cards. I also use US Mobile. 3Gb 24 bucks. Month to month.
David
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Peter g7rpg@hotmail.com wrote:
I’ll second David’s comment.
Will, you could make an exception on your HOME node in rpt.conf to bypass incoming authentication for your mobile node.
Under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx =
radio@127.0.0.1/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your mobile node.
On your MOBILE node, add a route back to home, under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx =
radio@xxxx.asnode.org/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your HOME node. ** THIS ASSUMES YOU’RE USING PORT 4569 **
You may also find it better to switch to a lower bitrate codec. ULAW is terrible while /m GSM performs the best.
HTH
Peter
On 15/11/2017 21:31, David Shaw wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about
an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
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Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor
will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however
port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and
it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical
pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a
network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run
into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon,
AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available
for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After
constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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Yes to be clear here guys, you do not need port forwarding make outgoing calls.
Peter
On 15/11/2017 21:59, David Shaw wrote:
On my AirCard (AT&T) I can forward ports. The AirCard is not a phone. But a WiFi hotspot. I have used the USB LTE cards. I also use US Mobile. 3Gb 24 bucks. Month to month.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither
inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Peter g7rpg@hotmail.com wrote:
I’ll second David’s comment.
Will, you could make an exception on your HOME node in rpt.conf to bypass incoming authentication for your mobile node.
Under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx =
radio@127.0.0.1/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your mobile node.
On your MOBILE node, add a route back to home, under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx =
radio@xxxx.asnode.org/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your HOME node. ** THIS ASSUMES YOU’RE USING PORT 4569 **
You may also find it better to switch to a lower bitrate codec. ULAW is terrible while /m GSM performs the best.
HTH
Peter
On 15/11/2017 21:31, David Shaw wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about
an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent
homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor
will@bashlor.com wrote:Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however
port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and
it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical
pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a
network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run
into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon,
AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available
for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org]
On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After
constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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there is a proxy function in allstar (or at least was in acid) where a fixed server could register your node number, and the wireless via wifi or wilan or 4g or what have you would authenticate to the proxy with a shared secret and connect you to the net or other linked systems.
Connecting inbound would be handled by the proxy server with traffic forwarded properly.
don’t remember the url to the page that described it, but i did run it for over 18 months just fine.
and on both vzw and at’t hotspots.
ymmv.
On Nov 15, 2017, at 16:31, David Shaw shawpbx@gmail.com wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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This is correct. My repeater node is actually behind a double-nat itself, and I work around this issue with an OpenVPN connection to another machine I have access to. I then have that OpenVPN connection take over as the default gateway for the Pi, and the traffic goes out from the other machine on a specific IP address, with inbound connections also being forwarded back. To ease the CPU load of the VPN connection, I turn off all ssl encryption on that particular tunnel – I don’t really care if someone wants to sniff my VOIP traffic.
Someday, I’ll do a writeup on how I made this work, as I’m sure it would come in handy for people with mobile nodes.
Jeremy, NQ0M
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:08 PM
To: app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Yes to be clear here guys, you do not need port forwarding make outgoing calls.
Peter
On 15/11/2017 21:59, David Shaw wrote:
On my AirCard (AT&T) I can forward ports. The AirCard is not a phone. But a WiFi hotspot. I have used the USB LTE cards. I also use US Mobile. 3Gb 24 bucks. Month to month.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Peter g7rpg@hotmail.com wrote:
I’ll second David’s comment.
Will, you could make an exception on your HOME node in rpt.conf to bypass incoming authentication for your mobile node.
Under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx = radio@127.0.0.1/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your mobile node.
On your MOBILE node, add a route back to home, under [nodes] add the following entry:
xxxxx = radio@xxxx.asnode.org/xxxx,NONE ; where xxxx is the node number of your HOME node. ** THIS ASSUMES YOU’RE USING PORT 4569 **
You may also find it better to switch to a lower bitrate codec. ULAW is terrible while /m GSM performs the best.
HTH
Peter
On 15/11/2017 21:31, David Shaw wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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Thanks for all the replies, this is great info and I will report what my results are. 73
On Nov 15, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Bryan D. Boyle bdboyle@bdboyle.com wrote:
there is a proxy function in allstar (or at least was in acid) where a fixed server could register your node number, and the wireless via wifi or wilan or 4g or what have you would authenticate to the proxy with a shared secret and connect you to the net or other linked systems.
Connecting inbound would be handled by the proxy server with traffic forwarded properly.
don’t remember the url to the page that described it, but i did run it for over 18 months just fine.
and on both vzw and at’t hotspots.
ymmv.
–
Bryan
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On Nov 15, 2017, at 16:31, David Shaw shawpbx@gmail.com wrote:
The Hotspot gets an IP address and then ASL needs to update the node list server. Then the clients needs to update the nodes list. So this can take sometime. So it can take around 30 minutes or so. For testing, let your hotspot ASL node run about an hour. Then see if you can connect.
Outbound doesn’t need the ports open.
David
–
Thanks, David
“Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
Thomas Jefferson
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Will Bashlor will@bashlor.com wrote:
Thanks Carl,
Yes, I am using my hot spot for a portable allstar node. I understand that with Verizon port forwarding is impossible without the one-time $500 static IP, however port forwarding shouldn’t be required for outbound only connections. It’s odd, I can attempt to connect to a node and it never connects, then 5 minutes later I can try again, and it does connect. Or I may try node AAAAA and it doesn’t connect, then BBBBB and it connects, then AAAAA and it doesn’t connect. But others can connect to AAAAA. Or when I get to work or home on WiFi then I can connect to AAAAA. Then 10 minutes later I leave the house and I connect to AAAAA just fine. In other words, there is no logical pattern lol.
I guess I need to start writing down what nodes and can and can’t connect to, and when. And start watching the Asterisk CLI to tell me what’s going on. I’m a network engineer working for an Internet service provider, so I can troubleshoot, but I haven’t began troubleshooting yet. I was just probing the community beforehand which could save me some time in the long run. I figured (hoping) someone have had to run into this before with all the portable nodes already out there.
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:32 PM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’ app_rpt-users@lists.allstarlink.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Are you trying to use your phone as a hot spot for the Asterisk device? If so, you will run into issues with port access. All of the major carriers (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have laid out there LTE networks in a manner that result in dual-NATing, there is no way to port forward from the “real” internet address to a device connected to your hotspot. Verizon will give you a static IP with ports available for a mere one-time fee of $500. I don’t know what other carriers want.
Carl, N7KUW
From: App_rpt-users [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org] On Behalf Of Will Bashlor
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:03 AM
To: ‘Users of Asterisk app_rpt’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] iPhone Verizon Hot Spot Issues
Hi All,
Anyone use their iPhone hot spot on Verizon? Any issues? Mine gives me a fit not wanting to connect to most any node (mine and others) most of the time. After constantly rebooting my node and phone several times, and retrying to connect to various nodes, sometimes it’s eventually successful.
Any similar experiences? Suggestions?
73
Will, KE4IAJ
TARG AEC
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Hi Will, did you ever figure this out as im having the exact same problem. Cheers
Hello. The problem using hotspots for hotspots (sorry, couldn’t resist…) is that most carriers constantly switch IP addresses. You could have an IP address, and 5 seconds later have a different IP address. AllStarLink checks your IP address against the rpt_extnodes registry and when it differs, it gives you “connection error” when trying to connect. As mentioned before, the only workaround is to get a static IP address. Sometimes I am able to maintain the IP address but other times, it just switches and so many times, it is literally impossible to have a conversation IF you even end up establishing a connection. You’ll have better luck going to a public hotspot like Mickey-D…
Login to your supermon / allmon and check out your WAN IP then refresh the screen and check if your IP address is on a joy ride. I am experiencing this as I type this message…