Gm300 have to set the rxondelay very high

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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I have never had this issue and I run mine on DSP. Discriminator on rx and flat tx audio.

Corey N3FE

···

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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Huh. I am running discriminator and flat TX. Did you ever test it simplex or was it only full duplex with two separate radios?

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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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Many ways actually. I have used it simplex like this and I have used it as a remote base using link2link, and at one point in time I was even using the steering lines and using it as a remote base. I have done this on both VHF and UHF.

Corey N3FE

···

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

Huh. I am running discriminator and flat TX. Did you ever test it simplex or was it only full duplex with two separate radios?

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, Corey Dean n3fe@repeater.net wrote:

I have never had this issue and I run mine on DSP. Discriminator on rx and flat tx audio.

Corey N3FE

Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info

KDØWHB

electricity440@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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I’ll post my usbradio.conf when I get home in 30 minutes. Do you mind sharing yours for a simplex gm300 node using DSP if you happen to have it?

···

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

Huh. I am running discriminator and flat TX. Did you ever test it simplex or was it only full duplex with two separate radios?

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, Corey Dean n3fe@repeater.net wrote:

I have never had this issue and I run mine on DSP. Discriminator on rx and flat tx audio.

Corey N3FE

Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info

KDØWHB

electricity440@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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Here is my usbradio.conf file :

[general]

[usbVHF]

hdwtype=0

rxboost=0

txboost=1

rxctcssrelax=1

;txctcssdefault=250.3

;rxctcssfreqs=100

;txctcssfreqs=100

;USE THE FOLLOWING FOR THE GM300 RADIO TO DO CSQ/PL DECODING

;rxctcssoverride=0 ;DO NOT SET THIS TO 1, I wired it up weird so COR means CTCSS

;carrierfrom=usb

;ctcssfrom=usb

USE THE FOLLOWING FOR THE SOFTWARE TO DO CSQ/PL DECODING

rxctcssoverride=1 ;CSQ MODE, Reccomended for remote base configuration!!!

carrierfrom=dsp

ctcssfrom=dsp

rxdemod=flat

txprelim=yes

txlimonly=yes

txtoctype=phase

txmixa=composite

txmixb=no

invertptt=0

duplex=0

rxondelay=13

;rxsquelchdelay=0

rxnoisefiltype=0

eeprom=0

···

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

I’ll post my usbradio.conf when I get home in 30 minutes. Do you mind sharing yours for a simplex gm300 node using DSP if you happen to have it?

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, Corey Dean n3fe@repeater.net wrote:

Many ways actually. I have used it simplex like this and I have used it as a remote base using link2link, and at one point in time I was even using the steering lines and using it as a remote base. I have done this on both VHF and UHF.

Corey N3FE


Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info

KDØWHB

electricity440@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

Huh. I am running discriminator and flat TX. Did you ever test it simplex or was it only full duplex with two separate radios?

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, Corey Dean n3fe@repeater.net wrote:

I have never had this issue and I run mine on DSP. Discriminator on rx and flat tx audio.

Corey N3FE

Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info

KDØWHB

electricity440@gmail.com

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Skyler F electricity440@gmail.com wrote:

If I use software PL/CSQ decoding, I was getting reports of something coming back from the node after they unkey.

Turning RXondelay up to about 6 (6 increments of 25ms) it worked great until I tuned to the bottom of the 2-meter band and I had to turn it all the way to 15 to avoid problems. It’s fine unless someone quick Keyes and then I will loose the beginning of their voice.

This is a simplex GM300 node, so I am guessing there is a lack of high frequency noise immediately after I unkey. What I don’t get is why it is worse at the bottom end of the VHF band. I guess the VFO is sick down there and takes longer to activate?

On my UHF GM300, I can get away with rxondelay set to 5 at 446.000. I haven’t tested lower, but I won’t be transmitting below 445.0

There is a variable inductor that I found near the receiver chip which actually improved tuning it from what I was initially getting, needing to set rxondelay all the way up to 25. (It’s near the squelch pot)

I am going to use COR from the radio anyway so I won’t have the problem, but I was planning on modding one for 9600 baud which could never deal with the horrible TX/RX switching time that I am getting.

Any experience with this issue here? Also, It’s annoying that I have to run rxondelay, I wish it could just ignore the receiver immediately after the transmitter drops, no other time. Is there any other setting?

73

Skyler KD0WHB

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