DMK URI and Baofeng Radios

Hello,

I am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I’m going to use either a Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT for the radio. I plan to interface this to the node with a DMK Engineering URI (http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm) I have yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with interfacing Baofeng HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a product that would be compatible with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have looked into Advanced Repeater Systems’ products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php) and they look excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something like the URI for when I upgrade the radio on the node. It looks like the ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI will interface to anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I have the Baofeng radio chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX

You may find http://alaskareflector.org/zl1nc/UV-COS.html
to be helpful in achieving a COS from the Baeofeng. The UV-5R circuit diagram
is available at http://www.miklor.com/uv5r/. I’m working on combining the
COS at the mic jack pin 4 for the same purpose,
which will require some modification to be compatible with the bias on pin 3 of
the 3.5 mm jack. PTT can be asserted on pin 5 are a shorting relay between this
pin and pin 5 of the speaker 2.5 mm jack. Tx pin 1 and Rx on the 2.5mm speaker
output.

73

Bob

KK6ECM

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5:25 PM
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DMK URI
and Baofeng Radios

Hello,

I
am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I’m going to use either a
Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT for the radio. I plan to interface this to the
node with a DMK Engineering URI (http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm) I have
yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with interfacing Baofeng
HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and
anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a
product that would be compatible with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any
other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have
looked into Advanced Repeater Systems’ products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php)
and they look excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something
like the URI for when I upgrade the radio on the node. It looks like the
ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI will interface to
anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So
all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I
have the Baofeng radio chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to
suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX

Adam,

Here is my offering for a USB sound adapter:

While the adapters you mention are fine in their own rights, I felt they fell short on a few "features" so I added those 'extras' and rolled my own interface.

The RIM is probably overkill for interfacing an HT, but since you mentioned you are planning a move to a different radio, the features of the RIM may come in handy.

Scott

Scott Zimmerman
Amateur Radio Call N3XCC
474 Barnett Road
Boswell, PA 15531

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On 12/26/2013 8:25 PM, Adam Booth wrote:

Hello,

I am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I�m going to use either a Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT
for the radio. I plan to interface this to the node with a DMK Engineering URI
(http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm\) I have yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with
interfacing Baofeng HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and
anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a product that would be compatible
with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have looked into Advanced
Repeater Systems� products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php\) and they look
excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something like the URI for when I upgrade the
radio on the node. It looks like the ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI
will interface to anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I have the Baofeng radio
chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX

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Seriously???
You can spend $30 on a Baofeng (Chinese Crap)

You can spend $30 on a 2 Channel Motorola Radius/Maxtrac (decent radio)

Why would you even think of using a Baofeng?

Where you going to get DISCRIMINATOR audio?

The Baofeng will sound like crap (warmed over)

Kirk

···

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Adam Booth kl3tx@ak.net wrote:

Hello,

I am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I’m going to use either a Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT for the radio. I plan to interface this to the node with a DMK Engineering URI (http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm) I have yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with interfacing Baofeng HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a product that would be compatible with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have looked into Advanced Repeater Systems’ products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php) and they look excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something like the URI for when I upgrade the radio on the node. It looks like the ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI will interface to anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I have the Baofeng radio chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX


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Well…the Maxtrak isn’t very portable. I think that’s the main idea here, or anyway, it would be for my proposes.

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On Dec 26, 2013, at 9:36 PM, Kirk Just Kirk <wb6egr@gmail.com> wrote:

Seriously???
You can spend $30 on a Baofeng (Chinese Crap)
You can spend $30 on a 2 Channel Motorola Radius/Maxtrac (decent radio)
Why would you even think of using a Baofeng?
Where you going to get DISCRIMINATOR audio?
The Baofeng will sound like crap (warmed over)

Kirk

On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Adam Booth <kl3tx@ak.net> wrote:
Hello,

I am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I’m going to use either a Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT for the radio. I plan to interface this to the node with a DMK Engineering URI (http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm\) I have yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with interfacing Baofeng HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a product that would be compatible with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have looked into Advanced Repeater Systems’ products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php\) and they look excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something like the URI for when I upgrade the radio on the node. It looks like the ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI will interface to anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I have the Baofeng radio chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX

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I have an Advanced Repeater Systems fob I’m using it on a Kenwood THF6a

configured as for simple usb. I really like how easy it was to setup. Also know

someone with an ARS using the Boafeng UV-5r. Being that it’s very simple to

make up a set of cables, I’ve experimented with URI’s and modified usb sound fobs.

Personally, I can’t tell the difference an ARS, a URI, or a modified fob using the

simple usb configuration.

JK

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From: Adam Booth kl3tx@ak.net
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: [App_rpt-users] DMK URI and Baofeng Radios

Hello,

I am looking to set up my first Allstar node and I’m going to use either a Baofeng UV-5R or UV-82 HT for the radio. I plan to interface this to the node with a DMK Engineering URI (http://dmkeng.com/URI_Order_Page.htm) I have yet to order. Does anyone here have experience with interfacing Baofeng HTs to the DMK URI and have any tips on how to secure the connection and anything else I should know? I am also interested in Echolink so a product that would be compatible with Echolink would be my best choice.

Any other suggestions for radio interfaces would be welcome as well. I have looked into Advanced Repeater Systems’ products as well (http://arsrepeaters.com/USB_AllStar_Adapters.php) and they look excellent, however, I would prefer the versatility of something like the URI for when I upgrade the radio on the node. It looks like the ARS product only interfaces to a certain radio but the URI will interface to anything (give you know the pinouts on your radio, etc).

So all in all, I am getting started and have yet to choose an interface. I have the Baofeng radio chosen as my starter radio, everything else is open to suggestions!

Thanks

Adam

KL3TX


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2nd on the Moto. I just got a Motorola SM50 40W uhf for $35
It's 2 orders of magnitude better than the Baofunk.
All the proper control lines are present without modification,
raw discriminator, direct to modulator, COR/PL line, PTT.
Easy to program, works fine in the ham band and well documented.

I have a small local repeater built out of a pair of SM50's,
I have an SM50 for a control receiver, and a couple VHF SM50's for packet.

Please take a second look at your radio, you will be much happier interfacing
to a real radio.

You can even cut an old IDE ribbon cable and connector. If you cut it down it fits the
back of the radio just fine. Or you can find the 16 pin connector cheap on ebay.

Don W9DRR

I have to agree with Don.
If you ever decided to connect to one of these very busy networks such as the win system, you will burn up your radio in no time. I use GM 300s or M 120s made by Motorola and they are designed to operate almost continuous duty cycle if you lower the power to about 10 watts and place a fan on the heat sink.

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2nd on the Moto. I just got a Motorola SM50 40W uhf for $35
It's 2 orders of magnitude better than the Baofunk.
All the proper control lines are present without modification,
raw discriminator, direct to modulator, COR/PL line, PTT.
Easy to program, works fine in the ham band and well documented.

I have a small local repeater built out of a pair of SM50's,
I have an SM50 for a control receiver, and a couple VHF SM50's for packet.

Please take a second look at your radio, you will be much happier interfacing
to a real radio.

You can even cut an old IDE ribbon cable and connector. If you cut it down it fits the
back of the radio just fine. Or you can find the 16 pin connector cheap on ebay.

Don W9DRR
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Real RADIO's have BatWings!!!:slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Ed W8VT

n 12/27/2013 02:09 PM, Lu Vencl wrote:

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I have to agree with Don.
If you ever decided to connect to one of these very busy networks such as the win system, you will burn up your radio in no time. I use GM 300s or M 120s made by Motorola and they are designed to operate almost continuous duty cycle if you lower the power to about 10 watts and place a fan on the heat sink.

Sent from my iPhone, Lu Vencl

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2nd on the Moto. I just got a Motorola SM50 40W uhf for $35
It's 2 orders of magnitude better than the Baofunk.
All the proper control lines are present without modification,
raw discriminator, direct to modulator, COR/PL line, PTT.
Easy to program, works fine in the ham band and well documented.

I have a small local repeater built out of a pair of SM50's,
I have an SM50 for a control receiver, and a couple VHF SM50's for packet.

Please take a second look at your radio, you will be much happier interfacing
to a real radio.

You can even cut an old IDE ribbon cable and connector. If you cut it down it fits the
back of the radio just fine. Or you can find the 16 pin connector cheap on ebay.

Don W9DRR
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Ever see how small an SM50 is? The whole chassis is a heat sink.

Have you ever see WB6NIL "DUDE"'s briefcase portable repeater?
That thing works pretty well. You could do the same with the SM50
set the output to 5W, and use a small roll up j-pole or even a magmount.
Use an Atom based 12v motherboard or even an old laptop. The radio could
be easily powered by a small 12v supply. It would all fit in one of those
aluminum tool box briefcases you can get a harbor freight for cheap.

Anyway good luck with your project, it's is exactly what ham radio is
about. Experimenting and making stuff do things it was never designed
to do!

Don W9DRR

Hi,

I sure haven’t seen either Jim’s briefcase repeater or an SM50, but I’m intrigued.

Currently using two GM300’s on node 2331 configured as a repeater. Antenna’s not up very bigh, maybe 18 feet off the ground, next project is to get it up higher, so currently it receives way better than it transmits, but even so, it’s not half bad.

I’ve been thinking I’d like to put together a portable node anyway. Does the SM50 have the same 16-pin connector as the GM300 has? If so, this would, indeed, be very easy. Expect the most expensive part of the project ould be the duplexer even if I cheaper out and got the Chinese eBay duplexer special. I’m also guessing that it uses the same annoying mini UHF connectors as the GM300’s do.

Come to think of it, how much smaller is the SM50 than the GM300 anyway? Because I actually even have a couple M120’s I could press not service…though they’re not very small to my mind.

···

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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY

On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:29 PM, Don Russell <drussell@gpgsecure.com> wrote:

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Ever see how small an SM50 is? The whole chassis is a heat sink.

Have you ever see WB6NIL "DUDE"'s briefcase portable repeater?
That thing works pretty well. You could do the same with the SM50
set the output to 5W, and use a small roll up j-pole or even a magmount.
Use an Atom based 12v motherboard or even an old laptop. The radio could
be easily powered by a small 12v supply. It would all fit in one of those
aluminum tool box briefcases you can get a harbor freight for cheap.

Anyway good luck with your project, it's is exactly what ham radio is
about. Experimenting and making stuff do things it was never designed
to do!

Don W9DRR
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Yeah, 16 pin connector on back. Mobile Duplexer's
while not optimal can be off fleabay for a reasonable price.
I did use one of those 6 cavity flat pack ones for a uhf repeater
and they worked just fine. It was a bit squirrelly to tweak up.

See:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/sm50/sm50.html

Don W9DRR

1) What is the purpose or function of the "/r" after the call sign in the
idtalkover example below?

      http://ohnosec.org/drupal/node/129

     "idtalkover=|iwa6zft/r ; Morse Code ID"

2) Is there a way of reducing the idtalkover volume (morse code ID or sound
file)? If so, how?

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM

/R represents a repeater. Simplex nodes do not have that.

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, "Bob" <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:

1) What is the purpose or function of the "/r" after the call sign in the
idtalkover example below?

     ohnosec.org

    "idtalkover=|iwa6zft/r ; Morse Code ID"

2) Is there a way of reducing the idtalkover volume (morse code ID or sound
file)? If so, how?

Thanks,
Bob
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Thanks for the concise and helpful information, Don. I will look into the
SM50, looks like a neat little radio which would be a good replacement for
what I want to do. I'm having a hard time finding one for $35 (working,
anyway) but I'm thinking it might be worth the extra cost using that instead
of an HT that's not really designed for this.

And thank you to (almost) everyone else that had suggestions for me, you've
been very helpful and you've put me on the right track.

Adam

···

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Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 12:12 PM
To: Buddy Brannan
Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] DMK URI and Baofeng Radios

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Yeah, 16 pin connector on back. Mobile Duplexer's while not optimal can be
off fleabay for a reasonable price.
I did use one of those 6 cavity flat pack ones for a uhf repeater and they
worked just fine. It was a bit squirrelly to tweak up.

See:
http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/sm50/sm50.html

Don W9DRR

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Hey Bob,

1) It just denotes “repeater” and is optional. My talk over ID is really old school, and a holdover from when I lived in Austin. Only place I’d ever seen this, but the repeaters usually ID’ed with calsign/R AUS (airport code for Austin). So mine ID’s as KB5ELV/R ERI as a nod to my misspent youth.

You can drop the volume of the morse ID in the morse stanza. There’s a line that goes
idamplitude=2048 (or some number)

I’ve set mine to idamplitude=1024 and idfrequency=650. Not too loud, but loud enough to be heard, and pleasant to my ear.

···

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Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:

1) What is the purpose or function of the "/r" after the call sign in the
idtalkover example below?

     ohnosec.org

    "idtalkover=|iwa6zft/r ; Morse Code ID"

2) Is there a way of reducing the idtalkover volume (morse code ID or sound
file)? If so, how?

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM

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Thanks all... was hoping to be able to reduce the volume of the "idtalkover"
without impacting the regular ID (i.e. idrecording=|ixxxxx). Guess I'll just
reduce the one.

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM

···

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From: Buddy Brannan [mailto:buddy@brannan.name]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Bob
Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf clarification

Hey Bob,

1) It just denotes "repeater" and is optional. My talk over ID is really old
school, and a holdover from when I lived in Austin. Only place I'd ever seen
this, but the repeaters usually ID'ed with calsign/R AUS (airport code for
Austin). So mine ID's as KB5ELV/R ERI as a nod to my misspent youth.

You can drop the volume of the morse ID in the morse stanza. There's a line
that goes
idamplitude=2048 (or some number)

I've set mine to idamplitude=1024 and idfrequency=650. Not too loud, but
loud enough to be heard, and pleasant to my ear.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Bob <kk6ecm@gmail.com> wrote:

1) What is the purpose or function of the "/r" after the call sign in the
idtalkover example below?

     ohnosec.org

    "idtalkover=|iwa6zft/r ; Morse Code ID"

2) Is there a way of reducing the idtalkover volume (morse code ID or

sound

file)? If so, how?

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM

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I ran my voice ID file through sox and reduced the volume. My idtalkover is CW ID which I also reduced in volume in the morse stanza.
Any voice file can be run through sox to reduce the volume. I also recreated the internal time of day in Perl and dynamically change the volume before it is played.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
WA3DSP Amateur Radio Resources

···

From: kk6ecm@gmail.com
To: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:49:01 -0800
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf clarification

Thanks all… was hoping to be able to reduce the volume of the “idtalkover”
without impacting the regular ID (i.e. idrecording=|ixxxxx). Guess I’ll just
reduce the one.

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM

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From: Buddy Brannan [mailto:buddy@brannan.name]
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 2:47 PM
To: Bob
Cc: app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] rpt.conf clarification

Hey Bob,

  1. It just denotes “repeater” and is optional. My talk over ID is really old
    school, and a holdover from when I lived in Austin. Only place I’d ever seen
    this, but the repeaters usually ID’ed with calsign/R AUS (airport code for
    Austin). So mine ID’s as KB5ELV/R ERI as a nod to my misspent youth.

You can drop the volume of the morse ID in the morse stanza. There’s a line
that goes
idamplitude=2048 (or some number)

I’ve set mine to idamplitude=1024 and idfrequency=650. Not too loud, but
loud enough to be heard, and pleasant to my ear.


Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY

On Dec 27, 2013, at 5:18 PM, Bob kk6ecm@gmail.com wrote:

  1. What is the purpose or function of the “/r” after the call sign in the
    idtalkover example below?

ohnosec.org

“idtalkover=|iwa6zft/r ; Morse Code ID”

  1. Is there a way of reducing the idtalkover volume (morse code ID or
    sound
    file)? If so, how?

Thanks,
Bob
KK6ECM


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