Is it possible to bridge DIAL and IRLP like the old ACID distro?
David Cameron would have a litter of kittens if you do that. IRLP is OBSOLETE.
The best thing to do with a IRLP node is to yank the hard drive,format it and bring it back up as a Allstar node and rip the IRLP interface board out, remove the SSI-202 chip and toss the rest in the trash. It’s like getting a new engine for your old chevy.
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Is it possible to bridge DIAL and IRLP like the old ACID distro?
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I had at one point in time thought about using irlp Debian distribution and putting allstarlink on it to make an irlp allstar bridge but this created so much controversy… I thought I had been burned on the Repeater antenna for talking about such thoughts… I personally don’t understand why irlp wishes to feel this way…
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Is it possible to bridge DIAL and IRLP like the old ACID distro?
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So?
If some one wants to interlink with another network who are we to stop them?
This is no different than linking with echolink or dstar.
Who cares if the software supports it? Just because we have software that
supports IRLP as a channel in asterisk doesn't mean everyone is going to run
out and use it. It's like torrent clients; they are legal to code and use but
some use may be against the ToS of your ISP.
I think it would be funny if a hundred asterisk/Allstar users setup IRLP and
Cameron flipped his shit. What's he going to do, ban half his user base? If
anything it would speed up the demise of IRLP by showing people the audio
quality and openness of the Allstar community.
73's
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On 1/9/16 12:31 PM, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
David Cameron would have a litter of kittens if you do that. IRLP is
OBSOLETE.
The best thing to do with a IRLP node is to yank the hard drive,format it
and bring it back up as a Allstar node and rip the IRLP interface board
out, remove the SSI-202 chip and toss the rest in the trash. It's like
getting a new engine for your old chevy.
--
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727-214-2508 - Fax
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This is my Opinion on this…
IRLP is a cash cow for Cameron.Cameron doesnt want IRLP nodes to connect (he claims) because of his “Security” reasons.He claims he doesnt sell node numbers, but try to get one for a “roll your own” device.When you buy a interface from him you get the node number tossed in.Allstar is WAY better in so many ways.IRLP has gone the route of AM C-Quam Stereo…was cool in it’s day, but it’s over.
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Loren Tedford lorentedford@gmail.com wrote:
I had at one point in time thought about using irlp Debian distribution and putting allstarlink on it to make an irlp allstar bridge but this created so much controversy… I thought I had been burned on the Repeater antenna for talking about such thoughts… I personally don’t understand why irlp wishes to feel this way…
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Phone: 618-553-0806
Fax: 16185512755
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On Jan 9, 2016 11:31 AM, “Kirk Just Kirk” wb6egr@gmail.com wrote:
David Cameron would have a litter of kittens if you do that. IRLP is OBSOLETE.
The best thing to do with a IRLP node is to yank the hard drive,format it and bring it back up as a Allstar node and rip the IRLP interface board out, remove the SSI-202 chip and toss the rest in the trash. It’s like getting a new engine for your old chevy.
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Is it possible to bridge DIAL and IRLP like the old ACID distro?
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Been there done that…he will pout and throw a fit…then remove your PGP keys from his system…
Honestly…IRLP is not worth bothering with. Simply switch over the system you want to cross with. There is no advantage to running IRLP…zero. Yeah I know…there are hams in Hawaii running 2 meter radios from the '70’s that dont have PL and whine about that too.
Here is a analogy…IRLP is like wearing a condom…Allstar is like going bareback. You may quote me on this.
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Bryan Fields Bryan@bryanfields.net wrote:
On 1/9/16 12:31 PM, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
David Cameron would have a litter of kittens if you do that. IRLP is
OBSOLETE.
The best thing to do with a IRLP node is to yank the hard drive,format it
and bring it back up as a Allstar node and rip the IRLP interface board
out, remove the SSI-202 chip and toss the rest in the trash. It’s like
getting a new engine for your old chevy.
So?
If some one wants to interlink with another network who are we to stop them?
This is no different than linking with echolink or dstar.
Who cares if the software supports it? Just because we have software that
supports IRLP as a channel in asterisk doesn’t mean everyone is going to run
out and use it. It’s like torrent clients; they are legal to code and use but
some use may be against the ToS of your ISP.
I think it would be funny if a hundred asterisk/Allstar users setup IRLP and
Cameron flipped his shit. What’s he going to do, ban half his user base? If
anything it would speed up the demise of IRLP by showing people the audio
quality and openness of the Allstar community.
73’s
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Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be
done, but it’s NOT supported. It’s their network, if they don’t want
our traffic, respect that.
73, Steve N4IRS
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On 01/09/2016 12:50 PM, Kirk Just Kirk
wrote:
Been there done that..he will pout and throw afit…then remove your PGP keys from his system…
Honestly…IRLP is not worth bothering with. Simply switch
over the system you want to cross with. There is no advantage
to running IRLP…zero. Yeah I know…there are hams in Hawaii
running 2 meter radios from the '70’s that dont have PL and
whine about that too.
Here is a analogy......IRLP is like wearing acondom…Allstar is like going bareback. You may quote me
on this.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:41 AM, BryanFields Bryan@bryanfields.net
wrote:On 1/9/16 12:31 PM, Kirk Just Kirk wrote:
> David Cameron would have a litter of kittens if youdo that. IRLP is
> OBSOLETE. > The best thing to do with a IRLP node is to yank thehard drive,format it
> and bring it back up as a Allstar node and rip theIRLP interface board
> out, remove the SSI-202 chip and toss the rest in thetrash. It’s like
> getting a new engine for your old chevy. So? If some one wants to interlink with another network who arewe to stop them?
This is no different than linking with echolink or dstar. Who cares if the software supports it?� Just because we havesoftware that
supports IRLP as a channel in asterisk doesn't mean everyoneis going to run
out and use it.� It's like torrent clients; they are legalto code and use but
some use may be against the ToS of your ISP. I think it would be funny if a hundred asterisk/Allstarusers setup IRLP and
Cameron flipped his shit. What's he going to do, ban halfhis user base?� If
anything it would speed up the demise of IRLP by showingpeople the audio
quality and openness of the Allstar community. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194�- Voice 727-214-2508�- Fax [http://bryanfields.net](http://bryanfields.net)
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But the thing is, it's not their network. It's all individual repeaters, and
the traffic is peer to peer, it's not transverseing IRLP servers.
If some one wants to restrict a given node from connecting to their node, I
don't take issue with that, but I'll be damned if some one else is going to
tell me who can connect to my node.
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On 1/9/16 12:59 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be done,
but it's NOT supported. It's their network, if they don't want our
traffic, respect that.
--
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It's their infrastructure. Their key exchange. Their reflectors. It is their network.
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On 01/09/2016 01:05 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
On 1/9/16 12:59 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be done,
but it's NOT supported. It's their network, if they don't want our
traffic, respect that.But the thing is, it's not their network. It's all individual repeaters, and
the traffic is peer to peer, it's not transverseing IRLP servers.If some one wants to restrict a given node from connecting to their node, I
don't take issue with that, but I'll be damned if some one else is going to
tell me who can connect to my node.
--
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Yes Steve thats true, and we don’t have to rely on IRLP to link sites anymore.
We can have high performance, and agility or sit on the side of the road with a blown headgasket…we have a choice.
Guess which is which 
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Steve Zingman szingman@msgstor.com wrote:
On 1/9/16 12:59 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be done,
but it’s NOT supported. It’s their network, if they don’t want our
traffic, respect that.
But the thing is, it’s not their network. It’s all individual repeaters, andthe traffic is peer to peer, it’s not transverseing IRLP servers.
If some one wants to restrict a given node from connecting to their node, I
don’t take issue with that, but I’ll be damned if some one else is going to
tell me who can connect to my node.
It’s their infrastructure. Their key exchange. Their reflectors. It is their network.
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And the reasoning behind D-Marc restricting DMR+ / Brandmeister traffic on there network is???
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On Jan 9, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Kirk Just Kirk wb6egr@gmail.com wrote:
Yes Steve thats true, and we don’t have to rely on IRLP to link sites anymore.
We can have high performance, and agility or sit on the side of the road with a blown headgasket…we have a choice.
Guess which is which
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Steve Zingman szingman@msgstor.com wrote:
On 1/9/16 12:59 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
Kirk is correct. IRLP on AllStar is no longer supported. It can be done,
but it’s NOT supported. It’s their network, if they don’t want our
traffic, respect that.
But the thing is, it’s not their network. It’s all individual repeaters, andthe traffic is peer to peer, it’s not transverseing IRLP servers.
If some one wants to restrict a given node from connecting to their node, I
don’t take issue with that, but I’ll be damned if some one else is going to
tell me who can connect to my node.
It’s their infrastructure. Their key exchange. Their reflectors. It is their network.
On 01/09/2016 01:05 PM, Bryan Fields wrote:
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