CTCSS and carrier squelch

App_rpt-users
1

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is much traffic on
our repeater we are used to use different subtones for different user groups
just for the initial call to request a group member to continue the qso
without subtone (so nobody else in the group will be disturbed).
Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9
rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,25
0.3
txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater in "carrier
squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be decoded/encoded by the
software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz passthrough).
Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

···

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2

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm intended)
to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to accommodate this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN later today once
Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf, allowing
the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put "rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally (as if you were
going to require them for access), but the receiver will not require any tone
to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

···

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is much traffic on
our repeater we are used to use different subtones for different user groups
just for the initial call to request a group member to continue the qso
without subtone (so nobody else in the group will be disturbed).
Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9
rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,25
0.3
txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater in "carrier
squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be decoded/encoded by the
software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz passthrough).
Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

--
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Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182

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3

Hello Jim,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new revision 569, but it
doesn't work. My config:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
;txctcssdefault=71.9
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately subtones
will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or simply passed
through the repeater. Any ideas?

Tnx,
73,
Jann

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes
(sarcasm intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio
to accommodate this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN later
today once Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
"rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally (as
if you were going to require them for access), but the
receiver will not require any tone to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

----------------------------------------
> From: jann@gmx.de
> To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
> Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>
> Hello,
>
> our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is
much traffic
> on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for different
> user groups just for the initial call to request a group member to
> continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the
group will be disturbed).
> Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
> configurations in
> usbradio.conf:
>
> #1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
> hdwtype=0
> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
>
rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,
> 100.0,
>
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.
>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,24
> 1.8,25
> 0.3
>
txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,
> 100.0,
>
103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.
>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,24
> 1.8,25
> 0.3
> carrierfrom=dsp
> ctcssfrom=dsp
> rxdemod=flat
> txprelim=yes
>
> #2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
> hdwtype=0
> carrierfrom=dsp
> ctcssfrom=no
> rxdemod=flat
> txprelim=yes
>
> Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater in "carrier
> squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be
decoded/encoded by the
> software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz passthrough).
> Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by
the software.
>
> Thanks
> 73,
> Jann
> DG8NGN
>
>
> --
> Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
> Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
> Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182
>
>
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                 =

4

Hi,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new revision
569, but it doesn't work.

I would like to enter this interesting discussion; during this year I want
to move my repeater from Echolink software to the asterisk stuff.

The plan so far is to bypass the audio around the PC with a switching
matrix, as my repeater is cross band multi mode and does not allow altering
the audio in any way. It lets pass FM, P25 and D-Star, and I do not want to
loose this capability.

But maybe way to pass the audio through the PC without changing a bit could
be an option?! I need flat response from almost DC up to some KHz, no DSP
processing in the pass-through path at all.

This would allow me to keep the status quo, and who knows, maybe some day
some real crack writes a regeneration module for digital modulation, even
anhancing the digital mode capability, including passing it through the
internet. Especially a P25 link from Germany to the US (where more P25 users
are on the air) would be very exciting.

So, at least I am guy #2 who really needs flat audio response :slight_smile:

With best regards

Ralph, dk5ras (sysop of db0fue).

PGP.sig (196 Bytes)

5

You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want PL unless
someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes" in app_rpt.c (in the
clause for the node), but you still have to specify some tx default
frequency whether you ever use it or not.

···

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100

Hello Jim,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new revision 569, but it
doesn't work. My config:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
;txctcssdefault=71.9
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately subtones
will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or simply passed
through the repeater. Any ideas?

Tnx,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes
(sarcasm intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio
to accommodate this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN later
today once Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
"rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally (as
if you were going to require them for access), but the
receiver will not require any tone to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is

much traffic

on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for different
user groups just for the initial call to request a group member to
continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the

group will be disturbed).

Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,24

1.8,25
0.3

txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,24

1.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater in "carrier
squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be

decoded/encoded by the

software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz passthrough).
Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by

the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

--
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Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182

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6

Hi Jim,

I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
txctcssdefault=88.5
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The repeater is
sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which subtone I use
on my handheld.

I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my handheld, but it
doesn't.

I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your repeaters. Maybe
we can have a short chat on RF.

Thank you,
73,
Jann

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want
PL unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have
to specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.

----------------------------------------
> From: jann@gmx.de
> To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100
>
> Hello Jim,
>
> thank you for the quick response. I did try the new
revision 569, but
> it doesn't work. My config:
>
> hdwtype=0
> rxboost=1
> rxctcssrelax=1
> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
>
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> 0.0,10
>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> 156.7,
>
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.
> 3
>
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> 0.0,10
>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> 156.7,
>
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.
> 3
> rxctcssoverride=1
> carrierfrom=dsp
> ctcssfrom=dsp
> rxdemod=flat
> txprelim=yes
>
> The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately
> subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or
> simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?
>
> Tnx,
> 73,
> Jann
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
>> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
>> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>
>>
>> A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
>> intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to accommodate
>> this need.
>>
>> A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN
later today
>> once Steve gets home and does it.
>>
>> It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
>> allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
>> "rxctcssoverride = yes"
>> in the file.
>>
>> You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally
(as if you
>> were going to require them for access), but the receiver will not
>> require any tone to actually receive.
>>
>> JIM WB6NIL
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> From: jann@gmx.de
>>> To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
>>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is
>> much traffic
>>> on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for
different
>>> user groups just for the initial call to request a group
member to
>>> continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the
>> group will be disturbed).
>>> Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
>>> configurations in
>>> usbradio.conf:
>>>
>>> #1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
>>> hdwtype=0
>>> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
>>>
>>
rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
>> ,
>>> 100.0,
>>>
>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
>> 6.2,151.4,156.
>>>
>>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
>> 4
>>> 1.8,25
>>> 0.3
>>>
>>
txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
>> ,
>>> 100.0,
>>>
>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
>> 6.2,151.4,156.
>>>
>>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
>> 4
>>> 1.8,25
>>> 0.3
>>> carrierfrom=dsp
>>> ctcssfrom=dsp
>>> rxdemod=flat
>>> txprelim=yes
>>>
>>> #2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
>>> hdwtype=0
>>> carrierfrom=dsp
>>> ctcssfrom=no
>>> rxdemod=flat
>>> txprelim=yes
>>>
>>> Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater
in "carrier
>>> squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be
>> decoded/encoded by the
>>> software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz
passthrough).
>>> Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by
>> the software.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> 73,
>>> Jann
>>> DG8NGN
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
>>> Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
>>> Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182
>>>
>>>
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>>> App_rpt-users@qrvc.com
>>> http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users
>> =
>
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7

I verified your report and indeed it was only putting out the default
tone. I located and fixed the problem.

You still have to specify a default CTCSS tone (which will be transmitted
whether there is an input or not, and whether or not there is
CTCSS tone on the input).

I just sent the new software to Steve RoDgers and he will put it in SVN
later this morning.

JIM

···

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0100

Hi Jim,

I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
txctcssdefault=88.5
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The repeater is
sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which subtone I use
on my handheld.

I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my handheld, but it
doesn't.

I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your repeaters. Maybe
we can have a short chat on RF.

Thank you,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want
PL unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have
to specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100

Hello Jim,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new

revision 569, but

it doesn't work. My config:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3

txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately
subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or
simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?

Tnx,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to accommodate
this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN

later today

once Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
"rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally

(as if you

were going to require them for access), but the receiver will not
require any tone to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is

much traffic

on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for

different

user groups just for the initial call to request a group

member to

continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the

group will be disturbed).

Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3

txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater

in "carrier

squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be

decoded/encoded by the

software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz

passthrough).

Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by

the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

--
Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182

_______________________________________________
App_rpt-users mailing list
App_rpt-users@qrvc.com
http://qrvc.com/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users

=

=

8

and, by the way, its xpmr.c and xpmr.h in the channels/xpmr directory

···

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0100

Hi Jim,

I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
txctcssdefault=88.5
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,100.0,10
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,156.7,
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,241.8,250.
3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The repeater is
sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which subtone I use
on my handheld.

I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my handheld, but it
doesn't.

I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your repeaters. Maybe
we can have a short chat on RF.

Thank you,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want
PL unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have
to specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100

Hello Jim,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new

revision 569, but

it doesn't work. My config:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3

txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately
subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or
simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?

Tnx,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to accommodate
this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN

later today

once Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
"rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally

(as if you

were going to require them for access), but the receiver will not
require any tone to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

----------------------------------------

From: jann@gmx.de
To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is

much traffic

on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for

different

user groups just for the initial call to request a group

member to

continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the

group will be disturbed).

Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS dsp-mode)
hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3

txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater

in "carrier

squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be

decoded/encoded by the

software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz

passthrough).

Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by

the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

--
Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182

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9

Yeah, that did it :wink: Thank you!

Since we run two permanently linked repeaters I wonder whether it is
possible to "passthrough" the incoming PL not only local but through the
other repeater using IAX-protocol? Are there any extensions in IAX that
would allow to add some payload like PL-tone-information? That would make it
possible to extend our "subtone-user-group-calling" across more repeaters.

73,
Jann

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:45 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

I verified your report and indeed it was only putting out the
default tone. I located and fixed the problem.

You still have to specify a default CTCSS tone (which will be
transmitted whether there is an input or not, and whether or
not there is CTCSS tone on the input).

I just sent the new software to Steve RoDgers and he will put
it in SVN later this morning.

JIM

----------------------------------------
> From: jann@gmx.de
> To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0100
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:
>
> hdwtype=0
> rxboost=1
> rxctcssrelax=1
> txctcssdefault=88.5
>
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> 0.0,10
>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> 156.7,
>
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.
> 3
>
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10
> 0.0,10
>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,
> 156.7,
>
162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.
> 3
> rxctcssoverride=1
> carrierfrom=dsp
> ctcssfrom=dsp
> rxdemod=flat
> txprelim=yes
>
> I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The
repeater
> is sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which
> subtone I use on my handheld.
>
> I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my
handheld, but
> it doesn't.
>
> I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your
repeaters.
> Maybe we can have a short chat on RF.
>
> Thank you,
> 73,
> Jann
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
>> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
>> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>
>>
>> You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want PL
>> unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
>> in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have to
>> specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.
>>
>> ----------------------------------------
>>> From: jann@gmx.de
>>> To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
>>> Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100
>>>
>>> Hello Jim,
>>>
>>> thank you for the quick response. I did try the new
>> revision 569, but
>>> it doesn't work. My config:
>>>
>>> hdwtype=0
>>> rxboost=1
>>> rxctcssrelax=1
>>> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
>>>
>>
rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1
>> 0
>>> 0.0,10
>>>
>>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4
>> ,
>>> 156.7,
>>>
>> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
>> 3.6,241.8,250.
>>> 3
>>>
>>
txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1
>> 0
>>> 0.0,10
>>>
>>
3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4
>> ,
>>> 156.7,
>>>
>> 162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
>> 3.6,241.8,250.
>>> 3
>>> rxctcssoverride=1
>>> carrierfrom=dsp
>>> ctcssfrom=dsp
>>> rxdemod=flat
>>> txprelim=yes
>>>
>>> The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately
>>> subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or
>>> simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Tnx,
>>> 73,
>>> Jann
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
>>>> To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
>>>> Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
>>>> intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to
accommodate
>>>> this need.
>>>>
>>>> A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN
>> later today
>>>> once Steve gets home and does it.
>>>>
>>>> It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
>>>> allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
>>>> "rxctcssoverride = yes"
>>>> in the file.
>>>>
>>>> You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally
>> (as if you
>>>> were going to require them for access), but the receiver
will not
>>>> require any tone to actually receive.
>>>>
>>>> JIM WB6NIL
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>> From: jann@gmx.de
>>>>> To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
>>>>> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
>>>>> Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is
>>>> much traffic
>>>>> on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for
>> different
>>>>> user groups just for the initial call to request a group
>> member to
>>>>> continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the
>>>> group will be disturbed).
>>>>> Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
>>>>> configurations in
>>>>> usbradio.conf:
>>>>>
>>>>> #1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS
dsp-mode)
>>>>> hdwtype=0
>>>>> ;txctcssdefault=71.9
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
>>>> ,
>>>>> 100.0,
>>>>>
>>>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
>>>> 6.2,151.4,156.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
>>>> 4
>>>>> 1.8,25
>>>>> 0.3
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4
>>>> ,
>>>>> 100.0,
>>>>>
>>>> 103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
>>>> 6.2,151.4,156.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2
>>>> 4
>>>>> 1.8,25
>>>>> 0.3
>>>>> carrierfrom=dsp
>>>>> ctcssfrom=dsp
>>>>> rxdemod=flat
>>>>> txprelim=yes
>>>>>
>>>>> #2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
>>>>> hdwtype=0
>>>>> carrierfrom=dsp
>>>>> ctcssfrom=no
>>>>> rxdemod=flat
>>>>> txprelim=yes
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater
>> in "carrier
>>>>> squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be
>>>> decoded/encoded by the
>>>>> software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz
>> passthrough).
>>>>> Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by
>>>> the software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> Jann
>>>>> DG8NGN
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
>>>>> Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail:
jann@gmx.de
>>>>> Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ
UIN: 4130182
>>>>>
>>>>>
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The part regarding sending the CTCSS information in the IAX packet
is quite trivial, the problem is that the TX CTCSS selection is not
done in app_rpt. Its set and done in chan_usbradio for the USB
and in pciradio.c (hardware driver) for the Quad PCI card. There
is no direct and easy way to do this the way its done currently
and would be quite an undertaking to change it.

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From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:58:18 +0100

Yeah, that did it :wink: Thank you!

Since we run two permanently linked repeaters I wonder whether it is
possible to "passthrough" the incoming PL not only local but through the
other repeater using IAX-protocol? Are there any extensions in IAX that
would allow to add some payload like PL-tone-information? That would make it
possible to extend our "subtone-user-group-calling" across more repeaters.

73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 6:45 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

I verified your report and indeed it was only putting out the
default tone. I located and fixed the problem.

You still have to specify a default CTCSS tone (which will be
transmitted whether there is an input or not, and whether or
not there is CTCSS tone on the input).

I just sent the new software to Steve RoDgers and he will put
it in SVN later this morning.

JIM

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From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 15:57:47 +0100

Hi Jim,

I set 88.5 Hz now as a default CTCSS-tone:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
txctcssdefault=88.5

rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3

txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,10

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

I'm able to open the repeater with any or none subtone. The

repeater

is sending 88.5 Hz subtone all the time. It doesn't matter which
subtone I use on my handheld.

I want the repeater to send out the subtone I use on my

handheld, but

it doesn't.

I'm currently at the repeaters site and connected to your

repeaters.

Maybe we can have a short chat on RF.

Thank you,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 3:22 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

You have to set a txctcssdefault frequency. If you dont want PL
unless someone is encoding it, then include "itxctcss=yes"
in app_rpt.c (in the clause for the node), but you still have to
specify some tx default frequency whether you ever use it or not.

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From: jann@gmx.de
To: telesistant@hotmail.com; app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:55:47 +0100

Hello Jim,

thank you for the quick response. I did try the new

revision 569, but

it doesn't work. My config:

hdwtype=0
rxboost=1
rxctcssrelax=1
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1

0

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4

,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3

txctcssfreqs=67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4,1

0

0.0,10

3.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,146.2,151.4

,

156.7,

162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,23
3.6,241.8,250.

3
rxctcssoverride=1
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

The repeater can be opened now without a subtone. Unfortunately
subtones will not be detected and regenerated by the repeater or
simply passed through the repeater. Any ideas?

Tnx,
73,
Jann

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Duuuude [mailto:telesistant@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:05 PM
To: Jann; app_rpt mailing list
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

A reasonable and easy request. I went to great extremes (sarcasm
intended) to make a 1 line change in chan_usbradio to

accommodate

this need.

A new copy of chan_usbradio.c will be posted to the SVN

later today

once Steve gets home and does it.

It will add the "rxctcssoverride" parameter to usbradio.conf,
allowing the rx CTCSS to default to off. (you have to put
"rxctcssoverride = yes"
in the file.

You then specify your CTCSS tones like you would normally

(as if you

were going to require them for access), but the receiver

will not

require any tone to actually receive.

JIM WB6NIL

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From: jann@gmx.de
To: app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:17:19 +0100
Subject: [App_rpt-users] CTCSS and carrier squelch

Hello,

our repeater is in "carrier squelch"-mode. Since there is

much traffic

on our repeater we are used to use different subtones for

different

user groups just for the initial call to request a group

member to

continue the qso without subtone (so nobody else in the

group will be disturbed).

Unfortunately this seems to be impossible. We tried these
configurations in
usbradio.conf:

#1 (we tried "0" in rxctcssfreqs/txctcssfreqs in CTCSS

dsp-mode)

hdwtype=0
;txctcssdefault=71.9

rxctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3

txctcssfreqs=0,67.0,71.9,74.4,77.0,79.7,82.5,85.4,88.5,91.5,94.8,97.4

,

100.0,

103.5,107.2,110.9,114.8,118.8,123.0,127.3,131.8,136.5,141.3,14
6.2,151.4,156.

7,162.2,167.9,173.8,179.9,186.2,192.8,203.5,210.7,218.1,225.7,233.6,2

4

1.8,25
0.3
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=dsp
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

#2 (we tried to disable CTCSS)
hdwtype=0
carrierfrom=dsp
ctcssfrom=no
rxdemod=flat
txprelim=yes

Is there a way to pass CTCSS tones through the repeater

in "carrier

squelch"-mode ? I don't care whether it will be

decoded/encoded by the

software or just passed through the repeater (0-300 Hz

passthrough).

Currently passthrough of 0-300 Hz seems to be blocked by

the software.

Thanks
73,
Jann
DG8NGN

--
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Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail:

jann@gmx.de

Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ

UIN: 4130182

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