Audio level for 2.5 KHz narrow band FM?

I’m playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow
band. As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it’s setup for
narrow band.

Looking at which is the

allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before
CTCSS/DCS, what’s the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM
system?
I’ve been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by
Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this? Can we add some info on
this to the docs site?
73’s W9CR

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with a service monitor, i set it to peak at 2.4 or so with pl (which should be aprx 400 hz deviation or so.)

linking it to wb systems you will have to play around a bit. but these starting points worked for me (and have been using them for the last 4 years on 900.

others may (will?) have their own opinion; thiese numbers give a little cushion to start with.

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I usually set my 900 stuff up this way. which is standard LMR settings.

±1.5kHz Voice Deviation

±0.35kHz CTCSS Deviation

±1.85kHz Total Combined Deviation ( Voice + CTCSS)

Some systems are set for ±2.4kHz combined, but no more than that.

YMMV

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I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow

band. As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it’s setup for
narrow band.

Looking at [http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92](http://docs.allstarlink.org/drupal/node/92) which is the

allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before
CTCSS/DCS, what’s the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM
system?

I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by

Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.

Is there anything more official than this?  Can we add some info on

this to the docs site?

73's W9CR

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1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I’ll take care of that.

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Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do you use on top of this? This is my first
900 mhz repeater :slight_smile:

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On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:

1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX sides.
Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I’ll take care of that.

--
Tim
:wq

On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net >> <mailto:Bryan@bryanfields.net>> wrote:

I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is narrow band.
As this is a converted uniden LTR repeater it's setup for narrow band.

Looking at AllStarLink Wiki which is the
allstarlink network standard, rather than 3khz of deviation before
CTCSS/DCS, what's the value I should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?

I've been researching it and there are some posts from 2009 by Steve,
WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this? Can we add some info on this to
the docs site?

73's W9CR
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The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems. So 3Hz or so should be about right.

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Thanks, how much PL/DCS deviation do
you use on top of this? This is my first 900 mhz repeater :slight_smile:

  On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
  1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the RX and TX

sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs site and I’ll take care
of that.

            Tim

            :wq

On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net >
wrote:

            I'm

playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most FM on 902mhz is
narrow band. As this is a converted uniden LTR
repeater it’s setup for narrow band.

            Looking at which is the allstarlink network standard, rather than

3khz of deviation before CTCSS/DCS, what’s the value I
should be shooting for here in a NBFM system?
I’ve been researching it and there are some posts from
2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that 1.5 KHz of deviation
should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this? Can we add
some info on this to the docs site?
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Maybe you meant 300 hertz?

N5ZUA
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  The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems.

So 3Hz or so should be about right. �

          Tim

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            Thanks, how much PL/DCS

deviation do you use on top of this?� This is my first
900 mhz repeater :slight_smile:

            On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
            1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the

RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs
site and I�ll take care of that.�

                    Tim

                    :wq
                    On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan

Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net
>
wrote:

                      I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most

FM on 902mhz is narrow band.�� As this is a
converted uniden LTR repeater it’s setup for
narrow band.

                      Looking at which is the allstarlink network standard,

rather than 3khz of deviation before
CTCSS/DCS, what’s the value I should be
shooting for here in a NBFM system?
I’ve been researching it and there are some
posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that
1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this?�
Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
73’s W9CR


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Yes. Thank you for the correction.

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On 2/5/2015 10:26 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:

  The PL setting should be half of what it is on wide band systems.

So 3Hz or so should be about right.

          Tim

          :wq

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            Thanks, how much PL/DCS

deviation do you use on top of this? This is my first
900 mhz repeater :slight_smile:

            On 2/5/15, 10:40 PM, Tim Sawyer wrote:
            1.5khz is the setting we use on 900 radios both on the

RX and TX sides. Makes sense to add that to the docs
site and I’ll take care of that.

                    Tim

                    :wq
                    On Feb 5, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bryan

Fields <Bryan@bryanfields.net
>
wrote:

                      I'm playing with a 900 mhz repeater and most

FM on 902mhz is narrow band. As this is a
converted uniden LTR repeater it’s setup for
narrow band.

                      Looking at which is the allstarlink network standard,

rather than 3khz of deviation before
CTCSS/DCS, what’s the value I should be
shooting for here in a NBFM system?
I’ve been researching it and there are some
posts from 2009 by Steve, WA6ZFT saying that
1.5 KHz of deviation should be the target.
Is there anything more official than this?
Can we add some info on this to the docs site?
73’s W9CR


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