Audio has no bass...

Curious as to if there are any settings in the dial setup that would make the sound have more bass, I have 2 nodes using icom icf-f121
Radios and one using a Motorola gm300 and they all sound fine, the other node is using an old Marconi Marcom vi and the audio it transmits back to the repeater is very tinny... The audio it sends out over the network is really nice. Just wondering if there are different settings for different style audio
Thanks
Bryan
Vo1mxz

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Sent from my iPhone 6

Did you see this in the usbradio.conf?

txprelim = no ; Audio processing on left output channel: no,yes
; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and limited.
; Suitable for use on a microphone input
; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and limited.
; Suitable for direct connection to an FM modulator

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Bryan Taylor overnite@me.com wrote:

Curious as to if there are any settings in the dial setup that would make the sound have more bass, I have 2 nodes using icom icf-f121

Radios and one using a Motorola gm300 and they all sound fine, the other node is using an old Marconi Marcom vi and the audio it transmits back to the repeater is very tinny… The audio it sends out over the network is really nice. Just wondering if there are different settings for different style audio

Thanks

Bryan

Vo1mxz

Sent from my iPhone 6


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To add to what Corey suggested, any time I see a post that indicates the repeater as tinny audio, the first thing I suspect is the audio is double - pre-emphasized.

This can happen two ways:
The audio feeding the transmitter is already pre-emphasized, but the transmitter is doing it again. Audio placed in to the MIC input will almost always add pre-emphasis to the applied audio. If you are feeding a radio that applies the pre-emphasis as part of the hardware, then don't add pre-emphasis in the configuration file.

It can also happen with some hardware (no necessarily app_rpt) when the receiver audio never gets de-emphasized and that audio is fed to a transmitter that applies pre-emphasis as part of the hardware.

Both of these will result in double pre-emphasis and the audio will sound tinny.

More on this subject is available on RB.
www.repeater-builder.com

Kevin - W3KKC

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On 4/4/2016 9:16 AM, Corey Dean wrote:

Did you see this in the usbradio.conf?

txprelim = no ; Audio processing on left output channel: no,yes
                        ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and limited.
                        ; Suitable for use on a microphone input
                        ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and limited.
                        ; Suitable for direct connection to an FM modulator

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Bryan Taylor <overnite@me.com > <mailto:overnite@me.com>> wrote:

    Curious as to if there are any settings in the dial setup that
    would make the sound have more bass, I have 2 nodes using icom
    icf-f121
    Radios and one using a Motorola gm300 and they all sound fine, the
    other node is using an old Marconi Marcom vi and the audio it
    transmits back to the repeater is very tinny... The audio it
    sends out over the network is really nice. Just wondering if there
    are different settings for different style audio
    Thanks
    Bryan
    Vo1mxz

As Kevin said, the more on the subject is at
Can I call it a good read? Not a beach read. :wink:
Steve

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http://www.repeater-builder.com/tech-info/flat-audio.html

  On 4/4/2016 9:34 AM, Kevin Custer

wrote:

-- "Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about."
1st Law of Logic
    To add to what Corey suggested, any

time I see a post that indicates the repeater as tinny audio,
the first thing I suspect is the audio is double -
pre-emphasized.�

    This can happen two ways:

    The audio feeding the transmitter is already pre-emphasized, but

the transmitter is doing it again.� Audio placed in to the MIC
input will almost always add pre-emphasis to the applied audio.�
If you are feeding a radio that applies the pre-emphasis as part
of the hardware, then don’t add pre-emphasis in the
configuration file.

    It can also happen with some hardware (no necessarily app_rpt)

when the receiver audio never gets de-emphasized and that audio
is fed to a transmitter that applies pre-emphasis as part of the
hardware.�

    Both of these will result in double pre-emphasis and the audio

will sound tinny.

    More on this subject is available on RB.

    Kevin - W3KKC

On 4/4/2016 9:16 AM, Corey Dean wrote:

www.repeater-builder.com

Did you see this in the usbradio.conf?

      txprelim = no���������� ; Audio processing on left output

channel: no,yes

      ����������������������� ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and

limited.

      ����������������������� ; Suitable for use on a microphone

input

      ����������������������� ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and

limited.

      ����������������������� ; Suitable for direct connection to an

FM modulator

        On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Bryan

Taylor overnite@me.com
wrote:

          Curious

as to if there are any settings in the dial setup that
would make the sound have more bass, I have 2 nodes using
icom icf-f121

          Radios and one using a Motorola gm300 and they all sound

fine, the other node is using an old Marconi Marcom vi and
the audio it transmits back to the repeater� is very
tinny… The audio it sends out over the network is really
nice. Just wondering if there are different settings for
different style audio

          Thanks

          Bryan

          Vo1mxz

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I think you just hit the nail on the head, this is the only radio taking audio through the mic connector, I will post my results after I try it out tonight

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To add to what Corey suggested, any
time I see a post that indicates the repeater as tinny audio, the
first thing I suspect is the audio is double - pre-emphasized.

  This can happen two ways:

  The audio feeding the transmitter is already pre-emphasized, but

the transmitter is doing it again. Audio placed in to the MIC
input will almost always add pre-emphasis to the applied audio.
If you are feeding a radio that applies the pre-emphasis as part
of the hardware, then don’t add pre-emphasis in the configuration
file.

  It can also happen with some hardware (no necessarily app_rpt)

when the receiver audio never gets de-emphasized and that audio is
fed to a transmitter that applies pre-emphasis as part of the
hardware.

  Both of these will result in double pre-emphasis and the audio

will sound tinny.

  More on this subject is available on RB.

  Kevin - W3KKC

On 4/4/2016 9:16 AM, Corey Dean wrote:

www.repeater-builder.com

Did you see this in the usbradio.conf?

    txprelim = no           ; Audio processing on left output

channel: no,yes

                            ; no - Audio is not pre-emphasized and

limited.

                            ; Suitable for use on a microphone input

                            ; yes - Audio is pre-emphasized and

limited.

                            ; Suitable for direct connection to an

FM modulator

      On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Bryan

Taylor overnite@me.com
wrote:

        Curious as

to if there are any settings in the dial setup that would
make the sound have more bass, I have 2 nodes using icom
icf-f121

        Radios and one using a Motorola gm300 and they all sound

fine, the other node is using an old Marconi Marcom vi and
the audio it transmits back to the repeater is very
tinny… The audio it sends out over the network is really
nice. Just wondering if there are different settings for
different style audio

        Thanks

        Bryan

        Vo1mxz