OK it worked, I was using a disc with an older version and somehow got it mixed up with the latest and greatest version. I popped that thing in there and took it like a champ.
I’ll try installing the limey version at a later time. Thanks guys de kilo-india-6-elle-n ekx
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Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Doug Bade)
Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras)
Re: 12.5 kHz repeaters support (Doug Bade)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 11:17:12 -0800
From: Orland Lopez ki6lnx@gmail.com
Subject: [App_rpt-users] acid Install
Message-ID:
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Hello, Everyone, I have a question that i saw it in the past emails
I am trying to install the image on the intel D945GCLF motherboard, it
will install and tried to go to the Phase1 post install but fails,
instead, it gets me the log in prompt, and I have not set a root password
at that point. I read something about it last year and cant seem to find
it in the archives. as hard as Im trying I cant remember Can you guys
refresh my mind . I cant remember the default passwords when this happens
so any help is really appreciated.
Gracias y 73’s
Hasta la Vista
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:51:03 -0500
From: “Doug Bade” kd8b@thebades.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] acid Install
To: “‘Orland Lopez’” ki6lnx@gmail.com, app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
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I answered directly but the ethernet chip in the D945GCLF board is not
recognized by CentOS base install yet… so it fails to connect to the
internet, hence the install aborts…
You need an Ethernet device for the rest of the install and do one of the
following… I prefer to just install with a usb ehternet dongle in line and
pull it later.
2 choices… add a pci above board to finish install or add a usb ethernet
like Linksys that is recognized. after all the OS updates are done you can
switch to the original Ethernet as the drivers for it will be added in the
update/upgrade loads.
Doug
KD8B
From: app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Orland Lopez
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:17 PM
Subject: [App_rpt-users] acid Install
Hello, Everyone, I have a question that i saw it in the past emails
I am trying to install the image on the intel D945GCLF motherboard, it
will install and tried to go to the Phase1 post install but fails,
instead, it gets me the log in prompt, and I have not set a root password at
that point. I read something about it last year and cant seem to find it
in the archives. as hard as Im trying I cant remember Can you guys refresh
my mind . I cant remember the default passwords when this happens so any
help is really appreciated.
Gracias y 73’s
Hasta la Vista
KI6LNX
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 13:50:52 +0100
From: “Jann Traschewski” jann@gmx.de
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
To: “‘app_rpt mailing list’” app_rpt-users@qrvc.com
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Hello,
my 12.5 kHz repeater system has a long noise tail compared to my 20 kHz
repeater system. Both use the USB URI with flat audio and carrier from dsp
in carrier squelch mode.
Moreover the rxnoise tuning comes with a warning:
db0fox*CLI> radio tune rxnoise
tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750
tries=0, setting=2, meas=15368
tries=1, setting=4, meas=21645
tries=2, setting=5, meas=26274
tries=3, setting=5, meas=25744
tries=4, setting=5, meas=26047
tries=5, setting=5, meas=26010
tries=6, setting=5, meas=26393
DONE tries=6, setting=312, meas=26393, sqnoise=5990
INFO: RX INPUT ADJUST SUCCESS.
WARNING: Insufficient high frequency noise from receiver.
WARNING: Rx input point may be de-emphasized and not flat.
usbradio.conf setting of 'carrierfrom=dsp' not recommended.New repeater systems in germany are now limited to 12.5 kHz. Would be nice
to build them with the Asterisk/app_rpt system. Are there any plans to
adjust the code for 12.5 kHz systems?
I’ll have a talk about the Asterisk/app_rpt system in two weeks at a
conference in germany.
Tnx,
73,
Jann
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:16:10 -0500
From: “Doug Bade” kd8b@thebades.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
To: “‘Jann Traschewski’” jann@gmx.de, “‘app_rpt mailing list’”
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One of the other distros for getting app_rpt running supports a narrowband
toggle function. It is from www.xelatec.com/. They have a “switch” in the sw
that toggles something in the dsp for 12k5 use. I played with it as our 900
mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days… It did work… However… in
general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do
with getting enough white noise I think… I had to play around some in the
900 gear but found points suitable for either distro…
Doug
KD8B
-----Original Message-----
From: app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com [mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@qrvc.com]
On Behalf Of Jann Traschewski
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:51 AM
To: ‘app_rpt mailing list’
Subject: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
Hello,
my 12.5 kHz repeater system has a long noise tail compared to my 20 kHz
repeater system. Both use the USB URI with flat audio and carrier from dsp
in carrier squelch mode.
Moreover the rxnoise tuning comes with a warning:
db0fox*CLI> radio tune rxnoise
tune rxnoise maxtries=12, target=27000, tolerance=2750
tries=0, setting=2, meas=15368
tries=1, setting=4, meas=21645
tries=2, setting=5, meas=26274
tries=3, setting=5, meas=25744
tries=4, setting=5, meas=26047
tries=5, setting=5, meas=26010
tries=6, setting=5, meas=26393
DONE tries=6, setting=312, meas=26393, sqnoise=5990
INFO: RX INPUT ADJUST SUCCESS.
WARNING: Insufficient high frequency noise from receiver.
WARNING: Rx input point may be de-emphasized and not flat.
usbradio.conf setting of 'carrierfrom=dsp' not recommended.New repeater systems in germany are now limited to 12.5 kHz. Would be nice
to build them with the Asterisk/app_rpt system. Are there any plans to
adjust the code for 12.5 kHz systems?
I’ll have a talk about the Asterisk/app_rpt system in two weeks at a
conference in germany.
Tnx,
73,
Jann
–
Jann Traschewski, Drosselstr.1, D-90513 Zirndorf, Germany
Tel.: +49-911-696971, Mobile: +49-170-1045937, E-Mail: jann@gmx.de
Ham: DG8NGN / DB0VOX, http://www.qsl.net/dg8ngn, ICQ UIN: 4130182
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:21:54 +0100
From: “Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras” ralph@radio-link.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
To: “Doug Bade” kd8b@thebades.net, “‘Jann Traschewski’”
<jann@gmx.de>, "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>Message-ID: NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKIEMJCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net
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Hi,
mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days… It did work… However… in
general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do
with getting enough white noise I think… I had to play around some in the
900 gear but found points suitable for either distro…
Please note that this is a commercial grade radio, no searching for a
discriminator tap, but using the flat out that is provided by the
manufacturer. Those radios should remain exchangable without modifying them,
so this is not really an option
I will definetely not start soldering
thin wires into my repeater radios, as I rely on direct replacement with a
brand new radio in case of failure.
Doug
KD8B
With best regards
Ralph.
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:54:51 -0500
From: “Doug Bade” kd8b@thebades.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
To: “‘Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras’” ralph@radio-link.net, "'Jann
Traschewski'" <jann@gmx.de>, "'app_rpt mailing list'" <app_rpt-users@qrvc.com>Message-ID: 002501cac122$6c7dc0f0$457942d0$@net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=“us-ascii”
I do understand, however because it has a commercial flat audio point does
not mean it has the appropriate noise component for the software to detect .
The manufacturer does not necessarily allow much white noise content on a
flat audio line… as flat audio by definition is not discriminator as a
discriminator is not flat unless the received signal is flat and normally it
is pre-emphasized…
So to be flat it is processed… and white noise may be stripped.
The white noise we are talking about is in the audio band above 3khz… up to
maybe 6-7 khz… you might sweep your receiver there for flat audio and watch
that with a scope… flat in band audio does not mean flat to 6khz…
If the chosen radios do not have sufficient white noise the only real option
is to add COR or CAS detection… as I do not think it is a wideband
narrowband issue you are seeing…
The way to test that is see if the same radios align suitably in wideband
mode assuming they can be programmed to test… If the URI cannot find an
answer there… it is most likely just a bad spot to pick noise from…
What I will also add is the level output is different on many radios (
especially in 12k5) and in my case I had to play with external padding as
well as the 20db gain/pad switch to get levels into a range the rx tuning
software and hardware could deal with… The internal resistors of the URI
are designed for a certain working range and load…
In most wideband and narrowband installs where I use the URI ( 6
installations I am involved in) , I had to go to the capacitive-ly coupled
input as DC component on the rx line had adverse effects on the URI’s
ability to function and calibrate.
Doug
KD8B
-----Original Message-----
From: Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras [mailto:ralph@radio-link.net]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:22 AM
To: Doug Bade; ‘Jann Traschewski’; ‘app_rpt mailing list’
Subject: RE: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
Hi,
mhz band is mostly 12k5 equipment these days… It did work… However… in
general The audio pickup point in the discriminator chain has more to do
with getting enough white noise I think… I had to play around some in the
900 gear but found points suitable for either distro…
Please note that this is a commercial grade radio, no searching for a
discriminator tap, but using the flat out that is provided by the
manufacturer. Those radios should remain exchangable without modifying them,
so this is not really an option
thin wires into my repeater radios, as I rely on direct replacement with a
brand new radio in case of failure.
Doug
KD8B
With best regards
Ralph.
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:07:59 +0100
From: “Ralph A. Schmid, dk5ras” ralph@radio-link.net
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] 12.5 kHz repeaters support
Message-ID: NKEEIFACLPLHPELJILGKEEMKCAAA.ralph@radio-link.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=“US-ASCII”
I do understand, however because it has a commercial flat audio point does
not mean it has the appropriate noise component for the software
to detect .
It has, when switched to 25 KHz, but the filtering of course also narrows
audo bandwidth.
The white noise we are talking about is in the audio band above
3khz… up to
maybe 6-7 khz… you might sweep your receiver there for flat
audio and watch
that with a scope… flat in band audio does not mean flat to 6khz…
6 KHz is to much fur 12.5 KHz, of course.
The way to test that is see if the same radios align suitably in wideband
mode assuming they can be programmed to test… If the URI cannot find an
answer there… it is most likely just a bad spot to pick noise from…
Like Jann already had mentioned, in wide band it is just fine. There can not
be very much additional filtering, as I can pass P25 and D-Star through this
output.
This leads to a topic that I at least dropped here for two times, but with
no response.
I would like to route the flat audio from DC level up to some KHz through
the PC, to allow P25 and D-Star through it. No codec, no DSP processing
(maybe even regenerating the digital signals in a later version), no
filtering. No LP, no HP. Nothing. Is there a possibility to enable this?
Maybe even to route this over the internet, to allow linking of multi mode
repeaters? It would be a great feature to have all the asterisk features,
all the tone decoding stuff, DSP squelch - but without touching the audio.
What I will also add is the level output is different on many radios (
especially in 12k5) and in my case I had to play with external padding as
well as the 20db gain/pad switch to get levels into a range the rx tuning
software and hardware could deal with… The internal resistors of the URI
are designed for a certain working range and load…
AFAIR the Motorolas are around 400 or 500 mV, but I am not sure.
Doug
KD8B
With best regards
Ralph.
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Hasta la Vista
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