[App_rpt] Problem tuning USB Radio Interface

The reason its not repeating is probably due to not decoding the PL due to improper levels, or its not set to use the COR/COS line. Maybe the logic is backward.
If its decoding dtmf so thats Good. I had to remove the voltage divider for my radio as some radios have
really strong disc. outputs others are more sedate. Measure the audio voltage, if its not way too hot,
then run it strait in the fob sans the divider.

Also make sure your audio going into the fob isn’t squelched. One repeater I interfaced into the audio was still preemphasized and was squelched.
That made it fun for adjusting levels. (MSR2000). It was wired for an NHRC-2, so I changed the pinout of the 9pin to that spec, so the controllers
are interchangable. I am building a dtmf decoder for the control freq so I can s
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On a side note, I’m still fighting a ground loop between the PC and the receiver. I have 60hz hum, only on the receiver, the transmitted audio is
fine. They are on the same outlet, I added a 1:1 audio balun on both the tx and rx audio lines. I ran a ground strap between the chassis of
the repeater, the PC, and the main ground bus. That all helped, but still hear the hum. I remove the usb interface connector and use
the backup controller (NHRC2), no hum. Weirdness…

Don

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From: w4rfj@comcast.net
To: app_rpt@lists.illiana.net
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:55:08 -0500
Subject: Re: [App_rpt] Problem tuning USB Radio Interface

Jeff Lavoie
[wqex694@wqex694.info] Wrote:

I seem to have a problem
tuning the USB radio interface. Here’e what I get in the CLI.

*CLI> radio tune

Active radio interface
is [usb]

Output A is currently
set to composite.

Output B is currently
set to voice.

Tx Voice Level currently
set to 500

Tx Tone Level currently
set to 200

Rx Squelch currently set
to 500

Device String is 3-2

Usage: radio tune

rxnoise

rxvoice

rxtone

rxsquelch [newsetting]

txvoice [newsetting]

txtone [newsetting]

auxvoice [newsetting]

save (settings to tuning file)

load (tuning settings from EEPROM)

All [newsetting]'s are values 0-999

*CLI> radio tune
rxnoise

tune rxnoise maxtries=12,
target=23000, tolerance=2000

tries=0, setting=2,
meas=1

tries=1, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=2, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=3, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=4, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=5, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=6, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=7, setting=16, meas=1

tries=8, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=9, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=10, setting=16,
meas=1

tries=11, setting=16,
meas=1

DONE tries=12,
setting=1000, meas=1

ERROR: RX INPUT ADJUST
FAILED.

*CLI>

I know I have audio
going into the device. When I made the modifications to the usb device, I
decided not to remove the >audio output jack so that I may use it for
testing purposes. So I plugged some speakers in, went into alsamixer, un->muted
the microphone, turned it up a little, and I had sound from the radio without
any problems. So why can’t asterisk >hear the sound when tuning?
Have I forgotten to do something else before trying this?

Jeff

Well I am getting the same thing except the Meas= is around
9-11 and the final Done line reads tries=12 setting=1000 measure=10

And I can’t get the usb fob to repeat!.. however is
does decode DTMF in double… IE push the tone once and it shows up as
being decoded twice on the CLI… I am thinking I need to reinstall
this EVB setup I have been trying to get working!

Anyone have any ideas??

Best Regards,

Roger W4RFJ


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A general FYI to those contemplating use of the USB FOB interface with COS
generated by hardware, as opposed to dsp:

I found that my receiver did not drop its COS line all the way to ground
potential in the no signal condition. I presume the Schottky diode (CM108
pin 48) was specified due to its inherently low junction voltage. However,
in my case, the receiver COS still did not drop low enough to generate
switching.

I replaced the Schottky diode with an NPN transistor (collector to CM108 pin
48, emitter to ground, base to the receiver COS source through 10K). Of
course, this introduces a COS polarity inversion with respect to the CM108.
The inversion is corrected by changing the 'carrierfrom=<usb | usbinvert>'
polarity selection in usbradio.conf.

One further point:
The pin spacing on the CM108 is 0.5 mm. The wire diameter of resistors and
diodes is about 1 mm. I found it easier to attach 28 AWG wire-wrap wires to
the chip, nail down the wires with hot-melt glue and attach the specified
components to the far ends of the wire-wrap.

Finally, soldering to the CM108 is best done before coffee.

73,
Dave
VE7MQ.

Dave,

Good idea about using the transistor. I also use a short piece of wire wrap wire to get to the pins.

It is fun soldering to those points. Luckily they are on corner pins and in the case of the current batch of green USB adapters the COR point (VOLDN) has a big pad.

Of course you could just buy one of the new URI devices (http://www.dmkeng.com/Products.htm) :slight_smile:

73,

Steve Henke, W9SH

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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:44 PM, David Powell-Williams dpowellwilliams@shaw.ca wrote:

A general FYI to those contemplating use of the USB FOB interface with COS
generated by hardware, as opposed to dsp:

I found that my receiver did not drop its COS line all the way to ground
potential in the no signal condition. I presume the Schottky diode (CM108
pin 48) was specified due to its inherently low junction voltage. However,

in my case, the receiver COS still did not drop low enough to generate
switching.

I replaced the Schottky diode with an NPN transistor (collector to CM108 pin
48, emitter to ground, base to the receiver COS source through 10K). Of

course, this introduces a COS polarity inversion with respect to the CM108.
The inversion is corrected by changing the ‘carrierfrom=<usb | usbinvert>’
polarity selection in usbradio.conf.

One further point:

The pin spacing on the CM108 is 0.5 mm. The wire diameter of resistors and
diodes is about 1 mm. I found it easier to attach 28 AWG wire-wrap wires to
the chip, nail down the wires with hot-melt glue and attach the specified

components to the far ends of the wire-wrap.

Finally, soldering to the CM108 is best done before coffee.

73,
Dave
VE7MQ.


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