AllStarLink for the BeagleBoard-xM

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz>

Hello, Steve.

I’m one of the Beaglebard/LOC users. It was a a great combination in its day! Mine’s been on the shelf for a couple years. I will resurrect it with your new image when I get home later this week and share my results. You know me... If there’s a way to screw something up, I usually find it ;-).

Thanks for carrying on in Jim’s great tradition.

May the new year be a great one for you!

John
WB5NFC

···

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On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Ditto (sort of). I have two, one shelved and the other one has been in operation for 4 or 5 years now. I purchased the second system from an individual because DMK was no longer making the LOC. The original issue I had in getting it to work revolved around the fact the BB-xM does not have a hardware MAC, so it changed on every boot. I need to find my old notes, but I believe I solved the issue in the router by using DHCP on setup, then dedicated the port. Every time I reboot, which has happened a few times over the years it always finds the correct port and corresponding ports forwarded. It is also my original EchoLink to Allstar box.

I’ll test it out over the next couple of days, and report to the list my experience, after I make sure I have the current card backed up. By the way, I believe that card is 4 GB, so I may have to rebuild the original on a larger card, then use the app-get.

Have I missed anything?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

···

Sent from iPad

On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:13 AM, John <wb5nfc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, Steve.

I’m one of the Beaglebard/LOC users. It was a a great combination in its day! Mine’s been on the shelf for a couple years. I will resurrect it with your new image when I get home later this week and share my results. You know me... If there’s a way to screw something up, I usually find it ;-).

Thanks for carrying on in Jim’s great tradition.

May the new year be a great one for you!

John
WB5NFC

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Bob,
I need to check for sure but the MAC is staying the same for me with this build. I assign the IP address to the MAC on each board I work on so I can find it quickly through oh so many reboots. :wink:
The image posted already has AllStarLink installed from source. No apt-get required. The NEXT version will be built with apt-get install. It too will have AllStarLink installed. When I push out updates to the ASL code, you will be able to do a apt-get upgrade. This will update any of the ASL modules and any Debian programs that need to be upgraded. This includes the kernel. If the kernel is upgraded, DAHDI will get rebuilt to match.
The current kernel in the bbxm-asl image is 4.9.x

73, Steve N4IRS

···

On 12/31/2017 01:57 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:

Ditto (sort of). I have two, one shelved and the other one has been in operation for 4 or 5 years now. I purchased the second system from an individual because DMK was no longer making the LOC. The original issue I had in getting it to work revolved around the fact the BB-xM does not have a hardware MAC, so it changed on every boot. I need to find my old notes, but I believe I solved the issue in the router by using DHCP on setup, then dedicated the port. Every time I reboot, which has happened a few times over the years it always finds the correct port and corresponding ports forwarded. It is also my original EchoLink to Allstar box.

I’ll test it out over the next couple of days, and report to the list my experience, after I make sure I have the current card backed up. By the way, I believe that card is 4 GB, so I may have to rebuild the original on a larger card, then use the app-get.

Have I missed anything?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad

On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:13 AM, John <wb5nfc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, Steve.

I’m one of the Beaglebard/LOC users. It was a a great combination in its day! Mine’s been on the shelf for a couple years. I will resurrect it with your new image when I get home later this week and share my results. You know me... If there’s a way to screw something up, I usually find it ;-).

Thanks for carrying on in Jim’s great tradition.

May the new year be a great one for you!

John
WB5NFC

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Very good. I just checked, and my BBxM generates a new MAC on each reboot. It is in software. I never did figure out how to generate a MAC on boot up. That’s cool if you’ve solved that “feature” of the BBxM :slight_smile:

I should have it up and running in the next hour.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

···

Sent from iPad

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

Bob,
I need to check for sure but the MAC is staying the same for me with this build. I assign the IP address to the MAC on each board I work on so I can find it quickly through oh so many reboots. :wink:
The image posted already has AllStarLink installed from source. No apt-get required. The NEXT version will be built with apt-get install. It too will have AllStarLink installed. When I push out updates to the ASL code, you will be able to do a apt-get upgrade. This will update any of the ASL modules and any Debian programs that need to be upgraded. This includes the kernel. If the kernel is upgraded, DAHDI will get rebuilt to match.
The current kernel in the bbxm-asl image is 4.9.x

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/31/2017 01:57 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:
Ditto (sort of). I have two, one shelved and the other one has been in operation for 4 or 5 years now. I purchased the second system from an individual because DMK was no longer making the LOC. The original issue I had in getting it to work revolved around the fact the BB-xM does not have a hardware MAC, so it changed on every boot. I need to find my old notes, but I believe I solved the issue in the router by using DHCP on setup, then dedicated the port. Every time I reboot, which has happened a few times over the years it always finds the correct port and corresponding ports forwarded. It is also my original EchoLink to Allstar box.

I’ll test it out over the next couple of days, and report to the list my experience, after I make sure I have the current card backed up. By the way, I believe that card is 4 GB, so I may have to rebuild the original on a larger card, then use the app-get.

Have I missed anything?

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad

On Dec 31, 2017, at 10:13 AM, John <wb5nfc@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, Steve.

I’m one of the Beaglebard/LOC users. It was a a great combination in its day! Mine’s been on the shelf for a couple years. I will resurrect it with your new image when I get home later this week and share my results. You know me... If there’s a way to screw something up, I usually find it ;-).

Thanks for carrying on in Jim’s great tradition.

May the new year be a great one for you!

John
WB5NFC

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 31, 2017, at 11:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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B.B.-xM/LOX fully up and running.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

···

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On Dec 31, 2017, at 9:54 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM. The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination. Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a promise is a promise so here we go.

I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
The login is repeater
The password is allstarlink

These are the things I still need to do:

Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source. You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the root partition to fit the available space on the card.
Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink the first time then force setting a new password.
Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?) will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS setting.

This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

<http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
Mike

···

On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

    When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
    existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
    The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
    conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
    Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
    sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
    should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
    
    I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
    did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
    could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
    know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
    available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
    promise is a promise so here we go.
    
    I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
    with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
    The login is repeater
    The password is allstarlink
    
    These are the things I still need to do:
    
    Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
    You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
    AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
    Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
    root partition to fit the available space on the card.
    Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
    Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
    the first time then force setting a new password.
    Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
    will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
    setting.
    
    This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.
    
    <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz>
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I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image this week.

Steve

···

On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:

Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
Mike

On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

     When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
     existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
     The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
     conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
     Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
     sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
     should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
          I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
     did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
     could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
     know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
     available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
     promise is a promise so here we go.
          I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
     with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
     The login is repeater
     The password is allstarlink
          These are the things I still need to do:
          Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
     You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
     AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
     Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
     root partition to fit the available space on the card.
     Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
     Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
     the first time then force setting a new password.
     Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
     will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
     setting.
     
          <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Ok I'll try it and see what happens, it was really close per ApplePiBaker within a few bytes....
Mike

    I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I
    did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image
    this week.
    
    Steve

···

On 1/1/18, 12:16 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
    
    On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:
    > Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
    > Mike
    >
    >
    > On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
    >
    > When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
    > existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
    > The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
    > conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
    > Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
    > sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
    > should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
    >
    > I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
    > did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
    > could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
    > know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
    > available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
    > promise is a promise so here we go.
    >
    > I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
    > with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
    > The login is repeater
    > The password is allstarlink
    >
    > These are the things I still need to do:
    >
    > Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
    > You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
    > AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
    > Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
    > root partition to fit the available space on the card.
    > Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
    > Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
    > the first time then force setting a new password.
    > Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
    > will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
    > setting.
    >
    >
    > This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.
    >
    > <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz>
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I didn’t have a small card. I get the best prices on 32 GB card, approx same price as 16 GB, so that is what I had.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

···

Sent from iPad

On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image this week.

Steve

On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:
Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
Mike

On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

    When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
    existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
    The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
    conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
    Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
    sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
    should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
         I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
    did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
    could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
    know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
    available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
    promise is a promise so here we go.
         I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
    with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
    The login is repeater
    The password is allstarlink
         These are the things I still need to do:
         Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
    You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
    AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
    Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
    root partition to fit the available space on the card.
    Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
    Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
    the first time then force setting a new password.
    Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
    will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
    setting.
              This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.
         <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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The default disk layout did not lend itself to resizing. I built the image on a 8GB SD. I can now control the layout so I can get the image down to under 4GB. It can be expanded to fill the SD card.
I'll push a update later this week.

Steve

···

On 01/01/2018 12:57 PM, Bob Pyke wrote:

I didn’t have a small card. I get the best prices on 32 GB card, approx same price as 16 GB, so that is what I had.

Thanks,
Bob
K6ECM

Sent from iPad

On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:16 AM, Steve Zingman <szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image this week.

Steve

On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:
Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
Mike

On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

     When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
     existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
     The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
     conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
     Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
     sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
     should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
          I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
     did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
     could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
     know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
     available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
     promise is a promise so here we go.
          I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
     with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
     The login is repeater
     The password is allstarlink
          These are the things I still need to do:
          Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
     You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
     AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
     Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
     root partition to fit the available space on the card.
     Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
     Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
     the first time then force setting a new password.
     Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
     will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
     setting.
               This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.
          <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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I have seen this behavior with some SD cards. The issue is the quality of the card itself. Not all SD cards are created equal. Generic cards frequently have this problem.

The revised image coming out next week should fix your problem.

···

Sent from my Mobile TRS-80

On Jan 1, 2018, at 12:16, Michael Wolthuis <wolthuis@gmail.com> wrote:

Ok I'll try it and see what happens, it was really close per ApplePiBaker within a few bytes....
Mike

On 1/1/18, 12:16 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

   I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I
   did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image
   this week.

   Steve

   On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:
Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
Mike

On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:

    When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
    existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
    The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
    conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
    Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
    sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
    should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.

    I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
    did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
    could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
    know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
    available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
    promise is a promise so here we go.

    I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
    with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
    The login is repeater
    The password is allstarlink

    These are the things I still need to do:

    Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
    You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
    AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
    Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
    root partition to fit the available space on the card.
    Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
    Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
    the first time then force setting a new password.
    Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
    will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
    setting.

    This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.

    <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz&gt;
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Yes, the revised will help, but it is a real SANDISK Extreme card - I have piles of them for all my RaspberryPi work. It did fit for the record, even though it gave me a warning.

It's all good, I got 16GBs too.

Thanks,
Mike
Kb8zgl

    I have seen this behavior with some SD cards. The issue is the quality of the card itself. Not all SD cards are created equal. Generic cards frequently have this problem.
    
    The revised image coming out next week should fix your problem.

···

On 1/1/18, 1:35 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Phil Hebert" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of phil@n3cdy.com> wrote:
    
    Sent from my Mobile TRS-80
    
    > On Jan 1, 2018, at 12:16, Michael Wolthuis <wolthuis@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > Ok I'll try it and see what happens, it was really close per ApplePiBaker within a few bytes....
    > Mike
    >
    >
    > On 1/1/18, 12:16 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
    >
    > I have not had the issue. As of now I have 2 users running the image. I
    > did not ask what size card they used. I will get it on a smaller image
    > this week.
    >
    > Steve
    >
    >> On 01/01/2018 12:14 PM, Michael Wolthuis wrote:
    >> Anyone else try this on an 8GB card and get told it is too small? I am going to try and find a 16GB card next.
    >> Mike
    >>
    >>
    >> On 12/31/17, 12:54 PM, "App_rpt-users on behalf of Steve Zingman" <app_rpt-users-bounces@lists.allstarlink.org on behalf of szingman@msgstor.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> When the first versions of AllStarLink on Debian were created, one
    >> existing version was left out. That version was for the BeagleBoard-xM.
    >> The BBxM has a daughter board called the LOX for I/O to 2 radios. In my
    >> conversations with Jim, he really liked the Beagle and LOX combination.
    >> Or was it bagels and lox? I was never quite sure. Jim wanted me to make
    >> sure I continued to support the BBxM/LOX. We had existing users and they
    >> should not be left out in the cold. I agreed.
    >>
    >> I had problems making it work the way we wanted it, so it got shelved. I
    >> did not want to forget, so it I kept it very visible on the shelf. I
    >> could not help but see it. Something of a thorn in my side. I do not
    >> know how many users are out there. I do not know if the BBxM is still
    >> available. I do not know if DMK is still selling LOX board. But, a
    >> promise is a promise so here we go.
    >>
    >> I have built a proof of concept image for the BBxM. The image is built
    >> with Debian Stretch. The image requires a 8GB or larger SD card (for now)
    >> The login is repeater
    >> The password is allstarlink
    >>
    >> These are the things I still need to do:
    >>
    >> Build the image with apt-get install rather then building from source.
    >> You will then be able to do a apt-get upgrade and get the most current
    >> AllStarLink programs and upgraded Debian Stretch programs.
    >> Shrink the image so it will copy to a smaller SD card and then fill the
    >> root partition to fit the available space on the card.
    >> Regenerate the ssh keys on first boot.
    >> Set the user repeater to allow login with the password of allstarlink
    >> the first time then force setting a new password.
    >> Tweak the beagle.conf settings so a first time user (are there any?)
    >> will be able to make carrier access work and not get bit by the CTCSS
    >> setting.
    >>
    >>
    >> This image assumes you can edit config files in /etc/asterisk.
    >>
    >> <http://dvswitch.org/files/Testing/bbxm-asl.img.xz>
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