Advise for setup

Good All,

** We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.**

It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .

Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.

** Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.**

Any help would be appreciated.

7 3 de Angelo

Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup
If you are using PL on the repeater, they maybe some options for you. If you are not using PL, then you will have to look at options where a shorter squelch tail is used.

We run similar setups here at some of sites – taking advantage of PL to give the desired results.

We are using USBradio.

Keith

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On 11/13/13 9:01 AM, “Angelo Glorioso” n5uxt@hotmail.com wrote:

Good All,
We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.
It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .
Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.
Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.

Any help would be appreciated.

7 3 de Angelo



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Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup
Hi Keith,

** Yes the repeater is using PL but the PL does not drop with the COS/COR. It stays running the whole time including the squelch tail. This maybe on of the issues.**

73 de Angelo

PS: any configurations files you would like to share?

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Keith Goobie

To: Angelo Glorioso ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

If you are using PL on the repeater, they maybe some options for you. If you are not using PL, then you will have to look at options where a shorter squelch tail is used.

We run similar setups here at some of sites – taking advantage of PL to give the desired results.

We are using USBradio.

Keith

On 11/13/13 9:01 AM, “Angelo Glorioso” <n5uxt@hotmail.com > wrote:

Good All,
** We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.**
** It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .**
** Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.**
** Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.**

** Any help would be appreciated.**

** 7 3 de Angelo**



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If you are using incoming PL for the users to key the repeater then it should follow their transmitted signal. If you are looking at the output of the repeater and the repeater is setup to transmit PL then PL will be present whenever the repeater is keyed. You can’t use the repeater output detected PL for Allstar. If you are at the repeater you can pickup the PL at the correct point. If you are using a remote link to the repeater then you will have to either modify the repeater so that its output PL follows the input or go to a two PL system where there is one output PL for the repeater and another follows the input. The second method allows repeater users to hear repeater ID’s and courtesy tones and both methods stop those from going out over Allstar.
73 Doug
WA3DSP
WA3DSP Amateur Radio Resources

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From: n5uxt@hotmail.com
To: keith@goobie.org; app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org
Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:48:29 -0600
Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup
Hi Keith,

** Yes the repeater is using PL but the PL does not drop with the COS/COR. It stays running the whole time including the squelch tail. This maybe on of the issues.**

73 de Angelo

PS: any configurations files you would like to share?

----- Original Message -----

From:
Keith Goobie

To: Angelo Glorioso ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

If you are using PL on the repeater, they maybe some options for you. If you are not using PL, then you will have to look at options where a shorter squelch tail is used.

We run similar setups here at some of sites – taking advantage of PL to give the desired results.

We are using USBradio.

Keith

On 11/13/13 9:01 AM, “Angelo Glorioso” <n5uxt@hotmail.com > wrote:

Good All,
** We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.**
** It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .**
** Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.**
** Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.**

** Any help would be appreciated.**

** 7 3 de Angelo**



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*Good All,*
**
* We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.*
**
*It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode . *
**
*Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.*
**
* Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.*
**
*Any help would be appreciated.*

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On 11/13/2013 08:01 AM, Angelo Glorioso wrote:
*
Angelo,
edit rpt.conf to change the hangtime of the repeater.

Also, find the [wait_times] stanza, also in rpt.conf and shorten them up, considerably.

Let me know if that doesn't get you pointed in the right direction and we'll go from there.

-Geoff

*

Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup
The best option would be to modify the repeaters PL to only be active during cos/cor, You may be able to add a second tone but that could cause other audio issues, but I have seen it done with success.

Good luck

Ross

www.kc7rjk.net

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From: Angelo Glorioso

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 6:48 AM

To: Keith Goobie ; app_rpt mailing list

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

Hi Keith,

Yes the repeater is using PL but the PL does not drop with the COS/COR. It stays running the whole time including the squelch tail. This maybe on of the issues.

73 de Angelo

PS: any configurations files you would like to share?

----- Original Message -----

From:
Keith Goobie

To: Angelo Glorioso ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

If you are using PL on the repeater, they maybe some options for you. If you are not using PL, then you will have to look at options where a shorter squelch tail is used.

We run similar setups here at some of sites – taking advantage of PL to give the desired results.

We are using USBradio.

Keith

On 11/13/13 9:01 AM, “Angelo Glorioso” <n5uxt@hotmail.com > wrote:

Good All,
** We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.**
** It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .**
** Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.**
** Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.**

** Any help would be appreciated.**

** 7 3 de Angelo**



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Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup
I want to thank all who offered help. We have Lake Charles up and running now. It was a jumper setting

in the Motorola GM300.

** Thanks all, Geoff, Keith, and Doug**

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Angelo Glorioso

To: Keith Goobie ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:48 AM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

Hi Keith,

** Yes the repeater is using PL but the PL does not drop with the COS/COR. It stays running the whole time including the squelch tail. This maybe on of the issues.**

73 de Angelo

** PS: any configurations files you would like to share?**

----- Original Message -----

From:
Keith Goobie

To: Angelo Glorioso ; app_rpt mailing list

Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [App_rpt-users] Advise for setup

If you are using PL on the repeater, they maybe some options for you.  If you are not using PL, then you will have to look at options where a shorter squelch tail is used.

We run similar setups here at some of sites – taking advantage of PL to give the desired results.

We are using USBradio.

Keith

On 11/13/13 9:01 AM, "Angelo Glorioso" <n5uxt@hotmail.com    > wrote:

Good All,
** We have a node coming up in Lake Charles, La and we are having issues. So, I am asking for configurations suggestion. First off, the Allstar node is not going to be at the repeater site. It is at a remote site.**
** It is running on GM300 with URI interface. The repeater has a long squelch tail of about 2 second. I have tried to run with USB radio in half duplex mode but the node ends up ping ponging with the repeater in half duplex mode .**
** Is it better to use simpleusb or USBradio for this type of setup?? Should the repeater squelch be reduced or turned off all together.**
** Please offer a copy of either USBradio or simpleusb configuratio file pretty please.**

** Any help would be appreciated.**

** 7 3 de Angelo**



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