# TX Tone Drop out Time **URL:** \ **Category:** AllStarLink\ **Created:** [September 16, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646 "2012-09-16T04:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![W7ry](https://community.allstarlink.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@W7ry](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/W7ry)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 4:05am UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/1 "2012-09-16T04:05:09Z")
I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. Can someone please tell me where that setting is? Thanks! 73 Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![Ke2n](https://community.allstarlink.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ke2n](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/Ke2n)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/2 "2012-09-16T11:54:33Z")
This is in usbradio.conf txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX ; AKA (“chicken burst”) If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. Most people like it that way 😉 Ken > **···** > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > > 73 > > Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![Corey\_Dean](https://community.allstarlink.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Corey\_Dean](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/Corey_Dean)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:01pm UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/3 "2012-09-16T13:01:54Z")
Here is the cop commands you may want to look at as well. 59 will always transmit, 58 will only transmit when there is an active signal. \* 58 - Tx CTCSS On Input only Enable \* 59 - Tx CTCSS On Input only Disable Corey N3FE > **···** > > \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > From: [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org] On Behalf Of Ken [ke2n@cs.com] > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:54 AM > To: 'Jim W7RY'; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > Subject: Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > This is in usbradio.conf > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone >                      ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time >                      ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase >                      ; AKA ("reverse burst") before unkeying TX >                      ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX >                      ; AKA ("chicken burst") > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > Most people like it that way 😉 > > Ken > > From: [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > To: [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > Subject: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I'm probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > 73 > Jim W7RY > > -- > This message was scanned and is believed to be clean. > Click here to report this message as spam.\<[http://simba.repeater.net:8080/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=5525E222A.A9956](http://simba.repeater.net:8080/cgi-bin/learn-msg.cgi?id=5525E222A.A9956)\> ---
**Author:** ![w8mw](https://community.allstarlink.org/user_avatar/community.allstarlink.org/w8mw/32/431_2.png) [@w8mw](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/w8mw)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/4 "2012-09-16T13:51:44Z")
Does this work on a Beagle board also do you know? Mike Kb8zgl > **···** > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Ken > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55 AM > **To:** ‘Jim W7RY’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > This is in usbradio.conf > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone > > ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time > > ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase > > ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX > > ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX > > ; AKA (“chicken burst”) > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > > Most people like it that way 😉 > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > > 73 > > Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![Ke2n](https://community.allstarlink.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/db5fbb/32.png) [@Ke2n](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/Ke2n)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/5 "2012-09-16T16:15:00Z")
Beagle board uses chan\_simpleusb So the config file is: simpleusb.conf Allegedly it supports the same encoding functions. See: [http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app\_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html](http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html) Ken > **···** > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Mike Wolthuis > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:52 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > Does this work on a Beagle board also do you know? > > Mike > > Kb8zgl > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Ken > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55 AM > **To:** ‘Jim W7RY’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > This is in usbradio.conf > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone > > ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time > > ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase > > ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX > > ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX > > ; AKA (“chicken burst”) > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > > Most people like it that way 😉 > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > > 73 > > Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![w8mw](https://community.allstarlink.org/user_avatar/community.allstarlink.org/w8mw/32/431_2.png) [@w8mw](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/w8mw)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/6 "2012-09-17T22:56:33Z")
I tried to put the following two lines into my beagle.conf txtoctype=notone txctcssdefault=131.8 Now there is a line in the beagle.conf that says: #includeifexists custom/usbradio.conf However, as you see it is commented out. Should those two lines have an effect out of beagle.conf or do I need to add usbradio.conf and remove the uncomment #? Thanks, Mike Kb8zgl > **···** > > **From:** Ken [[mailto:ke2n@cs.com](mailto:ke2n@cs.com)] > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:15 PM > **To:** ‘Mike Wolthuis’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** RE: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > Beagle board uses chan\_simpleusb > > So the config file is: simpleusb.conf > > Allegedly it supports the same encoding functions. > > See: > > [http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app\_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html](http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html) > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Mike Wolthuis > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:52 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > Does this work on a Beagle board also do you know? > > Mike > > Kb8zgl > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Ken > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55 AM > **To:** ‘Jim W7RY’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > This is in usbradio.conf > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone > > ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time > > ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase > > ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX > > ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX > > ; AKA (“chicken burst”) > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > > Most people like it that way 😉 > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > > 73 > > Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_D\_Boyle](https://community.allstarlink.org/user_avatar/community.allstarlink.org/bryan_d_boyle/32/22_2.png) [@Bryan\_D\_Boyle](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/Bryan_D_Boyle)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/7 "2012-09-17T23:12:48Z")
I tried to put the following two lines into my beagle.conf txtoctype=notone txctcssdefault=131.8 Now there is a line in the beagle.conf that says: #includeifexists custom/usbradio.conf However, as you see it is commented out. Should those two lines have an effect out of beagle.conf or do I need to add usbradio.conf and remove the uncomment #? Thanks, Mike Kb8zgl > **···** > > **From:** Ken [[mailto:ke2n@cs.com](mailto:ke2n@cs.com)] > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:15 PM > **To:** ‘Mike Wolthuis’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** RE: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > Beagle board uses chan\_simpleusb > > So the config file is: simpleusb.conf > > Allegedly it supports the same encoding functions. > > See: > > [http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app\_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html](http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html) > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Mike Wolthuis > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:52 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > Does this work on a Beagle board also do you know? > > Mike > > Kb8zgl > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Ken > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55 AM > **To:** ‘Jim W7RY’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > This is in usbradio.conf > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone > > ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time > > ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase > > ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX > > ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX > > ; AKA (“chicken burst”) > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > > Most people like it that way 😉 > > Ken > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > **Subject:** [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I’m probably not be looking in the right file. > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > Thanks! > > 73 > > Jim W7RY ---
**Author:** ![W2DB](https://community.allstarlink.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@W2DB](https://community.allstarlink.org/u/W2DB)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 2:52am UTC](https://community.allstarlink.org/t/tx-tone-drop-out-time/9646/8 "2012-09-18T02:52:43Z")
Guys, I may be talking way out of school here, and very sleep deprived…but I don’t think Beagle has the horsepower for usbradio, tone decode, generation, and all… Or do I really need more sleep? GeorgeC W2DB 2360 > **···** > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > **From:** > > Bryan D. Boyle > > > **To:** Mike Wolthuis > > > **Cc:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > **Sent:** Monday, September 17, 2012 7:12 PM > > > **Subject:** Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > > > > > only if, in a subdirectory called ‘custom’ in /etc/asterisk, you created a file called usbradio.conf. in other words, no, you don’t uncomment it if you haven’t. > > > > – > > Bryan > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > please forgive misspellings… > > > > > > On Sep 17, 2012, at 18:56, “Mike Wolthuis” \<[wolthuis@gmail.com](mailto:wolthuis@gmail.com) \> wrote: > > > > ``` > > > I tried to put the following two lines into my beagle.conf > > > > > > ``` > > > > txtoctype=notone > > > > txctcssdefault=131.8 > > > > ``` > > > Now there is a line in the beagle.conf that says: > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > #includeifexists custom/usbradio.conf > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > However, as you see it is commented out. > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > Should those two lines have an effect out of beagle.conf or do I need to add usbradio.conf and remove the uncomment #? > > > > > > ``` > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > > > Kb8zgl > > > > **From:** Ken [[mailto:ke2n@cs.com](mailto:ke2n@cs.com)] > > > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:15 PM > > > **To:** ‘Mike Wolthuis’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > **Subject:** > > > RE: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > > > ``` > > > Beagle board uses chan_simpleusb > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > So the config file is: simpleusb.conf > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > Allegedly it supports the same encoding functions. > > > > > > ``` > > > > See: > > > > [http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app\_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html](http://ohnosec.org/pipermail/app_rpt-users/2011-February/002275.html) > > > > Ken > > > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) > > > [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] > > > **On Behalf Of** Mike Wolthuis > > > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:52 AM > > > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > **Subject:** > > > Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > > > ``` > > > Does this work on a Beagle board also do you know? > > > > > > ``` > > > > Mike > > > > Kb8zgl > > > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) > > > [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] > > > **On Behalf Of** Ken > > > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 7:55 AM > > > **To:** ‘Jim W7RY’; [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > **Subject:** > > > Re: [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > > > ``` > > > This is in usbradio.conf > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > txtoctype=notone ; Transmit tone control type: no,phase,notone > > > > > > ``` > > > > ; no - CTCSS tone encoding with no hang time > > > > ; phase - encode CTCSS and reverse phase > > > > ; AKA (“reverse burst”) before unkeying TX > > > > ``` > > > ; notone - encode CTCSS and stop sending tone before unkeying TX > > > > > > ``` > > > > ; AKA (“chicken burst”) > > > > ``` > > > If you select notone (as shown here), then the PL drops about 600 ms before the carrier drops. > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > Most people like it that way ;-) > > > > > > ``` > > > > Ken > > > > **From:** [app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org) > > > [[mailto:app\_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users-bounces@ohnosec.org)] > > > **On Behalf Of** Jim W7RY > > > **Sent:** Sunday, September 16, 2012 12:05 AM > > > **To:** [app\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:app_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > **Subject:** > > > [App\_rpt-users] TX Tone Drop out Time > > > > ``` > > > I had my PL tone encoder (node generated) drop out before the carrier dropped out. It seems to have quit working. The PL generator is working fine, but the timing seems to changed. I don’t seem to find the command now. I'm probably not be looking in the right file. > > > > > > ``` > > > > ``` > > > Can someone please tell me where that setting is? > > > > > > ``` > > > > Thanks! > > > > 73 > > > > ``` > > > Jim W7RY > > > > > > ``` > > > > * * * > > > > > > ``` > > > App_rpt-users mailing list > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > [App\_rpt-users@ohnosec.org](mailto:App_rpt-users@ohnosec.org) > > > [http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app\_rpt-users](http://ohnosec.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/app_rpt-users)