On 7/2/19 8:45 PM, Brad Trogdon wrote:
Not sure of your beef but from a users perspective having tried both
AllStar and HamVoIP groups and offerings I have to say hands down the
HamVoIP group contributes significantly more to the communities in the
of product, updates and support.
Post the source. Without it, nothing else is legal or matters.
The better question; what does he have to hide?
HamVoIP has contributed nothing to the AllStar community, but has stolen
from it. HamVoIP has no right to distribute the AllStar code and is
in criminal copyright infringement against this community. This is
on the rights of every user and developer here; it’s beyond reprehensible.
Please define AllStar community. Being a user of the HamVoIP distribution I
feel I am a member of the community but with an updated and feature rich
version. To define stolen that means one would be deprived of use which I
don’t see occurring.
AllStar/asterisk/linux/et al. is Free Software licensed under the GPL version
- You’re free to use it, but if you give copies of it to anyone, you must
give them the same rights you have. If you don’t you have no right to it.
John David has failed to distribute his software in accordance with the
license, and has failed to cure this. He has no right to distribute it, and
people with copies of his software have been given copies illegally.
How are developers and users being negatively impacted? I see nothing but
users and developers benefiting.
He’s taken away any ability to view the source, and make changes to the code.
This is the core value of Free Software and why Jim developed this.
Do you condone this?
From my viewpoint as a user of well maintained and feature rich software,
yes. I don’t see anyone being deprived.
Produce the source, it’s a legal requirement. I’d love to audit his code in
something more than a disassembler.
I appreciate their hard work and
constant support to where I personally have donated when given the
All they have done is remove the by line and slap their own on name. Is this
hard? Certainly not.
Are you saying in a public forum you have paid him for HamVoIP?
Their are more than Amateur usage of this tool. GMRS for example how would
that group be shamed? Their are individuals whom use this for personal and
private networks in the Amateur community. Is this not in the spirit of
the applications creator?
It’s totally in the spirit of the freedom Jim intended, however this requires
the source code to be open and any changes are covered by the same license.
If Jim wanted it to be closed source, he’d have released it BSD licensed. I
won’t speak for his thoughts, but would think some of the first work he did on
the Tormenta card showed why BSD isn’t the ideal license for collaboration.
I would work on fixing the problem Proactively and not flame others who
providing a service to the community at large.
What service is he providing? What is he contributing if he’s unable to
by the basic tenets of the community?
I believe I have answered the question of service and contributions.
He’s not contributed anything, rather he’s dividing the community and has
support from people too stupid to see how he’s fucking them over. It’s sad.
The HamVoIP provides tons of how-tos and white-papers. When you refer to
the “Community” are you referring to a small group that could be compared
to a HOA?
I know this may be hard for you to understand, but the community is based on
freely sharing ideas and improvements. At the center of this is the GPL and
it dictates the minimum requirements of this community. HamVoIP has turned
their noses up at it, and refused to play by the community rules.
You’ve had your freedom ripped from you and you don’t care; rather your
cheering it. What is wrong with you?
Again from my perspective they are providing assistance, support
and product to a global community and are being picked on by a group of
disgruntled HOA members. I as a user have the option to choose.
You chose to further a felonious enterprise run by a conman. What more can I
say, he’s amateur radio’s Darl McBride sans the magic underwear.
Not sure if you saw my follow-up post previously but your dashboard was
reporting a component of AllStar was offline (Down)
Your unable to ping it? Well holy shit, one ping died in the ether from your
I’m done with you. Go be a pirate and enjoy suckling at John’s teet.
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