Idrecording/idtalkover volume control?

Is there a setting which adjusts the amplitude of the idtalkover ident as opposed to one amplitude for both? e.g. I would like the idrecording to be greater volume than the istalkover ident. Is this possible?
Alan

oh - and what is the difference between the Morse Telemetry Amplitude and the Morse ID Amplitude?

is there a way of adjusting the voice amplitude? or is this only done in the recording?

I think you would have to make a idtalkover recording to have lower level than idrecording.

Note sure what you asking in the second post.

Seems like the third post is a different way of asking the first. Please clarify.

These settings may be of interest to you. I think you have to be running the beta for them to work.

telemnomdb = -3                         ; Telemetry Nominal Amplitude reference in dB
telemduckdb = -15                       ; Telemetry Ducking in dB when local or link voice tx in progress
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Thanks Tim,
The question is based on these settings:
idrecording=/etc/asterisk/local/512811
; Main ID voice - no control of volume other than via the recording
idtalkover=|iVK2MET
; ID when signal present - morse subject to amplitude control???

I do not notice any control over the morse ID when it transmits - using the following setting adjustments:
[morse512811]
speed=20
frequency=800
amplitude=1024 ; alternative ID amplitude
idfrequency=750
idamplitude=4096 ; timer ID amplitude

from the second question above you asked about:
Since idampltitide in my case is voice the amplitude is ignored? It has not apparent effect.
and amplitude should govern the morse alternative id but I can’t notice a change with increase or decrease in this setting. Should it control this?
Alan

I feel the users of the repeater have priority and should always be able to talk over any system generated voice, so I lower ALL the /var/lib/asterisk/sounds files by 5dB. This was done using a script called ’ gaindown ’ by KB3ORE.
gaindown5.sh.pdf (72.1 KB)

yeh Ok that’s good thanks

Alan,
Those morse settings do change the IDer. Did you restart asterisk after changing them? Also, there must be a morse=morse512811 ; Morse stanza line within the [412811] stanza.

Yes I did restart asterisk and also tried a reboot (each time I adjusted).
Yes there is a morse512811 stanza
Still… I notice no difference when altering the amplitude
Alan

Post your rpt.conf if you like less any passwords.

Formating tip: Paste the text after three back ticks on a line. Follow the text with three back ticks on a line.

here’s my .conf file


; This file is shown with two local nodes. Use your editor to wholsale 
; change any mention of node 512810 to your assigned node number.
;
; Likewise do the same for node 1999 if you are using a second node.
; Node 1999 is defined as a pseudo node but could be setup as a second 
; simpleusb port.
;
; This file defaults to a simplex node (duplex=1)
;
; Lines with a ';' first character in this file are comments and
; are NOT executed.

; The first node definition

[512810]	; Change this to your assigned node number 

; Channel Driver settings
				; Define a channel driver to use and which
				; interface within that channel driver
				; To define a "radioless" node use the
				; psuedo channel driver - rxchannel=dahdi/pseudo

;rxchannel=Radio/usb512810	; Example usbradio channel driver

rxchannel=SimpleUSB/usb		; Example simpleusb channel driver	

;rxchannel=dahdi/pseudo		; Example pseudo channel driver


; Repeater/Simplex node settings
				; duplex=0 - Half duplex with no telemetry
				; tones or hang time. Special Case: Full
				; duplex if linktolink is set to yes.
				; This mode is preferred when interfacing
				; with an external multiport repeater controller. 

				; duplex=1 - Half duplex with telemetry tones
				; and hang time. Does not repeat audio.
				; This mode is preferred when interfacing a
				; simplex node. 

				; duplex=2 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
				; and hang time. This mode is preferred when
				; interfacing a repeater. 

				; duplex=3 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
				; and hang time, but no repeated audio. 
				; duplex=4 - Full Duplex with telemetry tones
				; and hang time. Repeated audio only when the
				; autopatch is down. 
duplex=1

; Context mapping
 
controlstates=controlstates
				; Defines groups of control operator commands
				; to be executed all at once. Can be combined
				; with macros to allow changes to a nodes
				; operating mode to be made quickly.

scheduler=schedule512810	
				; Defines macros to be executed at a specific
				; time and date. Uses a cron-like syntax

morse=morse512810		
				; Contains definitions for morse code messages.
				; One common morse stanza is shared across
				; multiple nodes

macro=macro512810		
				; Defines DTMF macro sequences

functions=functions512810	
				; Defines DTMF function digit sequences. A
				; function stanza has a reference to it defined
				; inside a node stanza. Multiple function stanzas
				; may be defined and used to provide different
				; function lists for different sources
				; (radio.phone, and link)

phone_functions=functions512810
link_functions=functions512810

telemetry=telemetry	
				; Contains definitions for telemetry tones
				; (courtesy tones, roger beeps, etc). A telemetry
				; stanza has a reference to it defined inside
				; a node stanza.

wait_times=wait-times512810
				; Contains time delays used to time audio
				; telemetry events


; Echolink settings

erxgain=-3
				; Echoline RX gain in dB
etxgain=3
				; Echolink TX gain in dB
;eannmode=1
				; Echolink announcement mode
				; Default: 1 = Say only node number on echolink
				; connects. 2 = say phonetic call sign only on
				; echolink connects. 3 = say phonetic call sign
				; and node number on echolink connects


; Audio Level settings in dB

telemnomdb=-9 ; default -6
				; Overall reduction in telemetry level
telemduckdb=-9 ; default -9 suggest -15
				; Telemetry level reduction with signal

; Notch Filter

;rxnotch=1000,20
				; Apply a notch to filter the RX signal. Values are:
				; frequency, bandwidth. Up to ten filters can be cascaded.
				; Example of three cascaded filters at 1000hz
				; 20hz bandwidth: rxnotch=1000,20,1000,20,1000,20


; Dial Plan settings

context =  radio
callerid = "Repeater" <00000512810>
				; This setting allows the autopatch on
				; the node to be identified with a specific
				; caller ID
accountcode=RADIO

events = events


; ID settings
				; ID recording files must have extension gsm,ulaw,pcm,
				; or wav. No file extension is used.
				; All ID recording files should be sampled at 8KH

idrecording=/etc/asterisk/local/512810		; Main ID voice

idtalkover=|iVK2ROJ			; ID when signal present

; Time settings - milliseconds	; The default values for hangtime, tx_timeout,
				; and id interval time are ; 5 seconds (5000 ms),
				; 3 minutes (180000 ms), and 5 minutes (300000 ms)
				; respectively

hangtime=0
				; squelch tail hang time (in ms)
althangtime=100
				; This controls the length of the node hang time
				; when the alternate hang timer is selected with
				; a control operator function.
tx_timeout=170000
				; changed from totime V1.3
idtime=600000
				; ID every 10 minutes
politeid=30000
				; The politeid setting specified the number of
				; milliseconds prior to the end of the id cycle
				; where the controller will attempt to play the
				; ID in the tail when a user unkeys. If the
				; controller does not get a chance to send the
				; ID in the tail, the ID will be played over
				; the top of the user transmission. 
rx_timeout=170000
				; Timeout on hardware COS. Used to avoid hangup
				; of circuits with COS lockup.		
rx_cosflap=20
				; Minimum COS Timeout reset period. Used to
				; avoid resseting of rx_timeout with a flapping
				; squelch. 


; Courtesy tone mapping

unlinkedct= ;ct2
				; Sent when not connected to another node
remotect=ct3
				; Sent when remote base connected
linkunkeyct= ;ct8
				; sent when a network user unkeys


; Link settings - values in seconds

;nolocallinkct=0
				; Send unlinkedct instead of linkedct if
				; another local node is connected to this
				; node (hosted on the same server).
;lnkactenable=0
				; The link activity timer may be used to reset
				; a link configuration back to a default
				; configuration if a user changes how the node
				; is linked. This helps in situations where the
				; user forgets to reset the system to the default
				; values, or drives out of range.
;lnkacttime=1800
				; This sets the amount of time to wait before
				; executing the inactivity macro. Set to a value
				; between 180 and 2000000 seconds.
;lnkactmacro=*52
				; This is the function to execute when the activity
				; timer expires. This can either be a function or
				; another macro defined in the [macros] stanza.
;lnkacttimerwarn=30seconds
				; For a 30 second warning message, set this to the
				; path of a ulaw or pcm sound file to play locally
				; when there is 30 seconds left on the activity timer.
				; Defualts to /var/lib/asterisk/sounds


; remote settings - values in seconds

;remote_inact_timeout=1800
				; Specifies the amount of time without keying
                                ; from the link. Set to 0 to disable timeout.
;remote_timeout=3600
				; Specifies the amount of time without keying from
				; the link. Set to 0 to disable timeout.


; Long Tone Zero DTMF
				; LiTZ is a simple method to indicate to others on
				; an amateur VHF / UHF FM radio frequency that you
				; have an immediate need to communicate with someone,
				; anyone, regarding a priority situation or condition.
				; This command can call any DTMF function which could
				; then call a script or program. It does not have to
				;  use the autopatch.

;litzcmd=*6911
				; Command sequnce -- Call 911 on autopatch
;litztime=3000
				; time required to hold down DTMF, defaults to 3000 ms
;litzchar=0
				; DTMF character to activate LITZ, defauls to 0


; Misc. settings

;connpgm=yourconnectprogram
				; Program or script to run at connection
;discpgm=yourdisconnectprogram
				; Program or script to run at disconnection
nounkeyct=1 ; set to 1 seems to stop the looping
				; Disable courtest tones (=1)
holdofftelem=0
				; Do not make announcements over user voice
telemdefault=1
				; 0= voice telemetry off, 1= on,
				; 2= Only your telemetry actions 
				; then mutes in 1 minute
;beaconing=0
				; When set to 1 will send the repeater ID at
				; the idtime interval regardless of whether
				; there was repeater activity or not.

;funcchar = *
				; function lead-in character (defaults to '*')
;endchar = #
				; command mode end character (defaults to '#')
;nobusyout=yes
				; (optional) Do not busy-out reverse-patch when
				; normal patch in use
;notelemtx = yes
				; telemetry output does not make main
				; system transmit (optional)
;propagate_dtmf = yes
				; DTMF sent to system from link gets
				; repeated onto main system output

;propagate_phonedtmf = yes
				; DTMF sent to system from phone gets
				; repeated into main system output and
				; link outputs (optional)
;linktolink = yes
				; disables forcing physical half-duplex
				; operation of main repeater while
				; still keeping half-duplex semantics
;inxlat = #456,#457,0123456789ABCD
				; translate digit strings inbound,
				; in this case intrepret #456 as star,
				; #457 as pound, and pass all the other
				; chars listed in arg3 (optional)
;outxlat = *7,*0,0123456789#ABCD
				; translate digit string outbound,
				; in this case *7 generates star, *0
				; generates pound, and all the other
				; digits pass along

;extnodes = extnodes-different
				; section in extnodefile containing
				; dynamic node information (optional)
;extnodefile = different-file
				; file containing dynamic node
				; info (optional)
;archivedir = some-directory
				; defines and enables activity recording
				; into specified directory (optional)
;archiveaudio=0
				; Disable saving .wav files when
				; archiving. Use with caution on SDcards
				; This write a lot of data.

;startup_macro = *73*90141689
startup_macro = *55
				; Macro to run at startup (optional)

; Tail Message

; The tailmessagetime,tailsquashedtime, and tailmessages need to be set
; to support tail messages. They can be omitted otherwise.
;
;tailmessagetime=1800000
				; Play a tail message every 5 mins
;tailsquashedtime=120000
				; If squashed by another user,
				; try again after 30 seconds

;tailmessagelist=/etc/asterisk/local/some_file
				;list of messages to be played for tail message


; *** Status Reporting ***

; Uncomment the following two statpost lines to report the
; status of your node to stats.allstarlink.org

statpost_program=/usr/bin/wget,-q,--timeout=15,--tries=1,--output-document=/dev/null 
statpost_url=http://stats.allstarlink.org/uhandler.php ; Status updates 

; END OF FIRST NODE

; BEGIN SECOND NODE



; Morse code parameters, these are common to all repeaters.
;
[morse512810]
speed=20
frequency=800
amplitude=1024
idfrequency=750
idamplitude=1024

[controlstates]
;statenum = copcmd,[copcmd]...
0 = rptena,lnkena,apena,totena,ufena,noicd  ; Normal operation
1 = rptena,lnkdis,apdis,totena,ufdis,noice  ; Repeater only operation

[schedule512810]                                                                      
;dtmf_function =  m h dom mon dow  ; ala cron, star is implied                                                  
;1=00 * * * *   ;run macro 1 on the hour 

[functions512810]
1=ilink,1
2=ilink,2
3=ilink,3
4=ilink,4
5=macro,1

70=ilink,5
71=ilink,11
72=ilink,12
901=ilink,13
75=ilink,15
73=ilink,6
77=ilink,16
78=ilink,18

80=status,11	; ID (local)
81=status,12	; Time of Day (local)

; Say 24 hour time - change to your node
82=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/say24time.pl 512810

; Autopatch up
61=autopatchup,context=pbx_server,noct=1,farenddisconnect=1,dialtime=20000,quiet=1
; Autopatch down
0=autopatchdn

; Play a Node announcement
;920=localplay,/etc/asterisk/local/some-file

;989=cop,4
980=status,3

99=cop,6 ; PPT on, # = release

; Weather Script Functions

; Examples are shown below:
; Play local wx report, *986
;986=localplay,/tmp/wx/wxreport_ug/KMNROGER1/cur_WxRpt_ug
; Play local wx alert, *988
;988=localplay,/tmp/wx/alert/MNC171/alerts

; Example functions to call scripts
; These are commented out. Remove ';' and change function
; command and node to your choice 
; Note that halting the system remotely would require
; a power cycle to recover.
;
85=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/sayip.sh 512810		; Say local IP to radio
86=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/saypublicip.sh 512810	; Say Public IP to radio
88=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/halt.sh 512810		; Halt the system (linux total shutdown)
87=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/reboot.sh 512810		; Reboot the system
;87=cmd,/usr/local/sbin/astres.sh		; Restart Asterisk
A003=cop,33 ; enable telemetry
A004=cop,34 ; disable telemetry


; Place command macros here

[events]
/usr/local/sbin/1low = s|t|RPT_TXKEYED
/usr/local/sbin/1high = s|f|RPT_TXKEYED
/usr/local/sbin/0low = s|t|RPT_RXKEYED
/usr/local/sbin/0high = s|f|RPT_RXKEYED

[macro512810]
;Macro number = command string (ea command separated by space) -end with HASH
;1=*81 *80#    ; play time and voice ID
;2=*73*341288
;3=*73*90143845
;4=*73*341223
1=*73*346740
2=*73*342732
3=*73*329341
4=*A003# ; enable telemetry
5=*A004# ; disable telemetry

7=*73*341689
9=*73*340894


[telemetry]

ct1=|t(350,0,100,2048)(500,0,100,2048)(660,0,100,2048)
;ct2=|t(660,880,150,2048)  
;ct2=|t(350,440,3000,2048) ; unlinked courtesy tone. Sent to RF 
ct3=|t(440,0,150,4096) 
ct4=|t(550,0,150,2048)
ct5=|t(660,0,150,2048)
ct6=|t(880,0,150,2048)
ct7=|t(660,440,150,2048)
;ct8=|it ; 2048 amplitude
;ct8=|t(630,0,100,750)(950,0,45,750) ; Courtesy tone from internet. Sent to RF
;remotetx=|t(1633,0,50,3000)(0,0,80,0)(1209,0,50,3000);
;remotetx=|t(630,0,100,750)(950,0,45,750) 
remotetx=|iK
remotemon=|t(1209,0,50,2048) 
cmdmode=|t(900,903,200,2048)
functcomplete=|t(950,0,333,1024)(1400,0,333,1024)(1800,0,333,1024)
patchup=rpt/callproceeding
patchdown=rpt/callterminated

;
; This section allows wait times for telemetry events to be adjusted
; A section for wait times can be defined for every repeater (node)
;

[wait-times512810]                                                                                                 
telemwait=2000
idwait=500
unkeywait=2000
calltermwait=2000

; Define local nodes

[nodes]
; Note, if you are using automatic updates for allstar link nodes,
; no allstar link nodes should be defined here. Only place a definition
; for your local (within your LAN) nodes, and private (off of allstar
; link) nodes here.
 
512810 = radio@127.0.0.1/512810,NONE
;41689 = radio@192.168.168.10:4568/41689,NONE
;41689 = radio@86.2.187.102:4568/41689,NONE
;1999 = radio@127.0.0.1/1999,NONE



; Memories for remote bases

[memory]

;00 = 146.580,100.0,m
;01 = 147.030,103.5,m+t
;02 = 147.240,103.5,m+t
;03 = 147.765,79.7,m-t
;04 = 146.460,100.0,m
;05 = 146.550,100.0,m      


#includeifexists custom/rpt.conf

Oh man I just added these commands to my node and they are GREAT. The ducking works great and allows me to keep telemetry but not have it interfere when there is traffic. So nice. Thanks Tim.

telemnomdb = -3 ; Telemetry Nominal Amplitude reference in dB
telemduckdb = -15 ; Telemetry Ducking in dB when local or link voice tx in progress

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