Dial vs ACID

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node

using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2

by the way.

ken n1dot
···

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman
wrote:

Ken,

  I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve

the restart from crash.

  I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have

a 706 as a remote base.

  Thanks, Steve


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On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth
Grimard wrote:

hi steve

    the main issue steve is not the fact that

    service asterisk restart does not work.



    but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason

    it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use

    cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.



    cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will

    not restart via a watchdog script.



    safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been

eliminated.

    and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.



    yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from

the

    dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the

    service asterisk restart does not work.



    it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the

    asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the

    the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk

    to be restarted proprely.



    I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an

    ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.

    when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.



    I have had to take the remote base node off of the

    allmon2 page to stop this crashing.



    it will do it every time too.

    that is something with the old remote base code

    with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.



    this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very

nice

    where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.



    can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the

    dial x86 build with out having to re-install

    dial x86 image?



    otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been

    fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions

    which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access

    the remote base node via the asterisk manager

    interface.



    ken n1dot
      On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve

Zingman wrote:

Ken,

      As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there

anything I’m missing?

      73, Steve



      root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

      Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and

others.

      Created by Mark Spencer Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid
= 4407)
repeaterCLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
repeater
CLI> Killed
root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and
others.
Created by Mark Spencer Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type ‘core show
warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid
= 4462)
repeater*CLI>
markster@digium.com

markster@digium.com

        On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth

Grimard wrote:

        I download the dial release and installed it just after is

first came out

        that was about 4 weeks ago.



        now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1

cop command

        it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an

ssh shell and issue a

        service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.



        the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86

release.

        there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself

after a crash

        or after using the cop,1 cop command.



        has there been any updates to the asterisk service command

        for systemd to fix this?



        ken n1dot
          On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve

Zingman wrote:

Neil,

          I misread your message last night.

          I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86

restarts a dead asterisk. See below.

          `
            ps ax | grep asterisk

�1081 ?������� Ssl��� 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
�1117 pts/0��� S+���� 0:00 grep asterisk
kill -9 1081
ps ax | grep asterisk
�1125 pts/0��� S+���� 0:00 grep asterisk
asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc.
and others.
Created by Mark Spencer Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type ‘core
show warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under
the GNU General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for
details.

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does
/var/run/asterisk.ctl exist?)
service asterisk restart
ps ax | grep asterisk
�1143 ?������� Ssl��� 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
�1171 pts/0��� S+���� 0:00 grep asterisk
asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc.
and others.
Created by Mark Spencer Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type ‘core
show warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under
the GNU General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for
details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater
(pid = 1143)
repeater*CLI> `

          73, Steve N4IRS

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

markster@digium.com

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

markster@digium.com

            On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil

k8it wrote:

Steve

                I have been evaluating Dial on

a Linux PC

Observations

                1. When asterisk crashes,

there is no restart or watchdog

                2.this makes debugging very

difficult

                3.asterisk service mode

restart does not seem to work

                4. in this mode remote SSH to

restart is not possible

Do you have any fixes planned?

Thanks

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Hi Ken,

Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the built-in
code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
use. Various serial communications issues with the radio would
-sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.

If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:

TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22

It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it gets
used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.

73, David KB4FXC

···

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
by the way.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
> Ken,
> I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
> restart from crash.
> I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
> 706 as a remote base.
>
> Thanks, Steve
>
> On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>> hi steve
>>
>> the main issue steve is not the fact that
>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>
>> but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
>> it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
>> cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.
>>
>> cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
>> not restart via a watchdog script.
>>
>> safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
>> and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.
>>
>> yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
>> dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
>> service asterisk restart does not work.
>>
>> it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
>> asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
>> the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
>> to be restarted proprely.
>>
>> I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
>> ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
>> when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.
>>
>> I have had to take the remote base node off of the
>> allmon2 page to stop this crashing.
>>
>> it will do it every time too.
>> that is something with the old remote base code
>> with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.
>>
>> this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice
>>
>> where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.
>>
>> can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
>> dial x86 build with out having to re-install
>> dial x86 image?
>>
>> otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
>> fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
>> which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
>> the remote base node via the asterisk manager
>> interface.
>>
>> ken n1dot
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>> Ken,
>>> As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
>>> I'm missing?
>>>
>>> 73, Steve
>>>
>>> root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>> warranty' for details.
>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>> General Public
>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>> redistribute it under
>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>> =========================================================================
>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4407)
>>> repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
>>> repeater*CLI> Killed
>>>
>>> root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
>>> root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>> warranty' for details.
>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>> General Public
>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>> redistribute it under
>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>> =========================================================================
>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4462)
>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
>>>> I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
>>>> came out
>>>> that was about 4 weeks ago.
>>>>
>>>> now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
>>>> command
>>>> it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
>>>> shell and issue a
>>>> service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.
>>>>
>>>> the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 release.
>>>>
>>>> there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a crash
>>>> or after using the cop,1 cop command.
>>>>
>>>> has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
>>>> for systemd to fix this?
>>>>
>>>> ken n1dot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:
>>>>> Neil,
>>>>> I misread your message last night.
>>>>> I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
>>>>> asterisk. See below.
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>> 1081 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>> 1117 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>> 1125 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>> General Public
>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>> Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
>>>>> exist?)
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
>>>>> 1143 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
>>>>> 1171 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk
>>>>>
>>>>> root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
>>>>> Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
>>>>> Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
>>>>> Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
>>>>> warranty' for details.
>>>>> This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
>>>>> General Public
>>>>> License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
>>>>> redistribute it under
>>>>> certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.
>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>> Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 1143)
>>>>> repeater*CLI>
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Steve N4IRS
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>> I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
>>>>>> Observations
>>>>>> 1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
>>>>>> 2.this makes debugging very difficult
>>>>>> 3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
>>>>>> 4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
>>>>>> Do you have any fixes planned?
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
>>>>>> Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
>>>>>> Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
>>>>>> IRLP Node exp0068
>>>>>> Echolink K8IT-L
>>>>>> WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479
>>>>>>>>>
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I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic rpt remote base code.
I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in it. I'll have to try it.

YMMV

73, Steve N4IRS

···

On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the built-in
code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
use. Various serial communications issues with the radio would
-sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.

If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:

TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22

It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it gets
used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.

73, David KB4FXC

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
by the way.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
restart from crash.
I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
706 as a remote base.

Thanks, Steve

On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

the main issue steve is not the fact that
service asterisk restart does not work.

but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.

cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
not restart via a watchdog script.

safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.

yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
service asterisk restart does not work.

it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
to be restarted proprely.

I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.

I have had to take the remote base node off of the
allmon2 page to stop this crashing.

it will do it every time too.
that is something with the old remote base code
with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.

this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice

where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.

can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
dial x86 build with out having to re-install
dial x86 image?

otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
the remote base node via the asterisk manager
interface.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
I'm missing?

73, Steve

root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4407)
repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
repeater*CLI> Killed

root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4462)
repeater*CLI>

On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
came out
that was about 4 weeks ago.

now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
command
it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
shell and issue a
service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.

the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 release.

there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a crash
or after using the cop,1 cop command.

has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
for systemd to fix this?

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,
I misread your message last night.
I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
asterisk. See below.

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1081 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1117 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1125 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
exist?)

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1143 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1171 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 1143)
repeater*CLI>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:

Steve
I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
Observations
1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
2.this makes debugging very difficult
3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
Do you have any fixes planned?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

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hi dave

yes the remote base does cause a stability issue.
but for the part is does work.

but when disabled asterisk much more stable too.

i use the k0kn node swap script to enable and disable
by changing that rpt.conf with a different one and
restarting asterisk on the acid system.
trying to migrate to dial now.

having been trying to get to it work with dial due
to the support of new hard ware.

it has been fairly stable with the dial x86 so far.
except when using allmon2 via the manager interface
to access the remote base node. when that is done
it will cause asterisk to crash.

the ic-706 system built in to allstar is very nice
due to the voice readback of settings which is not
easy to do via ham-lib.

other wise it has been fairly stable providing i do not
do certain things to upset it and make asterisk unhappy.

the x86 system with a REAL serial port is the most stable
for cat control for the ic-706. I have had a lot of trouble
using a usb to serial adapters.

usb to serial is a real problem child on most system's even windows.

ken n1dot

···

On 12/12/2015 2:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the built-in
code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
use. Various serial communications issues with the radio would
-sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.

If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:

TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22

It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it gets
used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.

73, David KB4FXC

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
by the way.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
restart from crash.
I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
706 as a remote base.

Thanks, Steve

On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

the main issue steve is not the fact that
service asterisk restart does not work.

but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.

cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
not restart via a watchdog script.

safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.

yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
service asterisk restart does not work.

it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
to be restarted proprely.

I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.

I have had to take the remote base node off of the
allmon2 page to stop this crashing.

it will do it every time too.
that is something with the old remote base code
with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.

this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice

where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.

can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
dial x86 build with out having to re-install
dial x86 image?

otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
the remote base node via the asterisk manager
interface.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
I'm missing?

73, Steve

root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4407)
repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
repeater*CLI> Killed

root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4462)
repeater*CLI>

On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
came out
that was about 4 weeks ago.

now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
command
it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
shell and issue a
service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.

the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 release.

there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a crash
or after using the cop,1 cop command.

has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
for systemd to fix this?

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,
I misread your message last night.
I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
asterisk. See below.

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1081 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1117 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1125 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
exist?)

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1143 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1171 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 1143)
repeater*CLI>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:

Steve
I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
Observations
1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
2.this makes debugging very difficult
3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
Do you have any fixes planned?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

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allmon and allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will not
have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash every time
when used.

this is why i have taken the remote base node off the allmon2 page's
on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build also.

i am working with dial to make the migration to new
hardware sooner or later.

ken n1dot

···

On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic rpt remote base code.
I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in it. I'll have to try it.

YMMV

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk
crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the built-in
code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn't
stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on
use. Various serial communications issues with the radio would
-sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded that their was
probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.

If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability
skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an
example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:

TX time today....................................: 01:12:27.95
TX time since system initialization..............: 87:37:42.861
Uptime...........................................: 1336:34:22

It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you can see, it gets
used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.

73, David KB4FXC

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node
using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2
by the way.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
I now better understand. I'll work on something that will solve the
restart from crash.
I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a
706 as a remote base.

Thanks, Steve

On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

the main issue steve is not the fact that
service asterisk restart does not work.

but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason
it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use
cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.

cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will
not restart via a watchdog script.

safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.
and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.

yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the
dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the
service asterisk restart does not work.

it force's me to use service asterisk stop to remove the
asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the
the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk
to be restarted proprely.

I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an
ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.
when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.

I have had to take the remote base node off of the
allmon2 page to stop this crashing.

it will do it every time too.
that is something with the old remote base code
with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.

this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice

where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.

can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the
dial x86 build with out having to re-install
dial x86 image?

otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been
fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions
which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access
the remote base node via the asterisk manager
interface.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,
As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything
I'm missing?

73, Steve

root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4407)
repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
repeater*CLI> Killed

root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4462)
repeater*CLI>

On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

I download the dial release and installed it just after is first
came out
that was about 4 weeks ago.

now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop
command
it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh
shell and issue a
service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.

the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 release.

there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a crash
or after using the cop,1 cop command.

has there been any updates to the asterisk service command
for systemd to fix this?

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,
I misread your message last night.
I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead
asterisk. See below.

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1081 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1117 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1125 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl
exist?)

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk
  1143 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk
  1171 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show
warranty' for details.
This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 1143)
repeater*CLI>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:

Steve
I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC
Observations
1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog
2.this makes debugging very difficult
3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work
4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible
Do you have any fixes planned?
Thanks
73 Neil Sablatzky K8IT
Allstar Node 41838 KITLINK
Allstar Node 42087 KITLINK HUB
IRLP Node exp0068
Echolink K8IT-L
WIRES-X K8IT 11479 Room 21479

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I’m curious as to why allmon would be an issue? I’m running 2 allmon servers which monitor up to 12 nodes with 5 remote bases and have not had issues. What is the problem that allmon causes?

de K0JSC

···

On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Kenneth Grimard n1dot1@gmail.com wrote:

allmon and allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will not

have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash every time

when used.

this is why i have taken the remote base node off the allmon2 page’s

on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build also.

i am working with dial to make the migration to new

hardware sooner or later.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

I don’t have any stability issues with the 706 and the basic rpt remote base code.

I don’t need hamlib. Admittedly, I don’t use Aallmon in it. I’ll have to try it.

YMMV

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats causes a Asterisk

crash…Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB using the built-in

code and never had good results–YES, it did work. But, Asterisk wasn’t

stable very long, frequently crashing several times a day, depending on

use. Various serial communications issues with the radio would

-sporadically- “knock it for a loop” too. I concluded that their was

probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.

If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk stability

skyrocketed–uptimes now measured in weeks, months or longer. As an

example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems now:

TX time today…: 01:12:27.95

TX time since system initialization…: 87:37:42.861

Uptime…: 1336:34:22

It has been up 55 days without any issues…And, as you can see, it gets

used–But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.

73, David KB4FXC

On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base node

using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2

by the way.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

I now better understand. I’ll work on something that will solve the

restart from crash.

I will also look into what is causing the crash since I also have a

706 as a remote base.

Thanks, Steve

On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

the main issue steve is not the fact that

service asterisk restart does not work.

but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for any reason

it will not restart itself. because of this i also can not use

cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.

cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but asterisk will

not restart via a watchdog script.

safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it has been eliminated.

and you only use the asterisk service script under systemd.

yes the version of the asterisk service script i have here from the

dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the

service asterisk restart does not work.

it force’s me to use service asterisk stop to remove the

asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the

the service asterisk start will then work allowing asterisk

to be restarted proprely.

I also have a node setup for remote base mode using an

ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash with it.

when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2 dashboard.

I have had to take the remote base node off of the

allmon2 page to stop this crashing.

it will do it every time too.

that is something with the old remote base code

with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.

this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash would be very nice

where can i find a new or updated asterisk service script.

can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in the

dial x86 build with out having to re-install

dial x86 image?

otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial has been

fairly stable. but i can make it crash under certain conditions

which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access

the remote base node via the asterisk manager

interface.

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

As I posted below I could not recreate your issue. is there anything

I’m missing?

73, Steve

root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

Created by Mark Spencer markster@digium.com

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

warranty’ for details.

This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

General Public

License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

redistribute it under

certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

=========================================================================

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4407)

repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150

repeater*CLI> Killed

root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart

root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

Created by Mark Spencer markster@digium.com

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

warranty’ for details.

This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

General Public

License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

redistribute it under

certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

=========================================================================

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 4462)

repeater*CLI>

On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

I download the dial release and installed it just after is first

came out

that was about 4 weeks ago.

now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you use the cop,1 cop

command

it will not restart is self at all. you have to go into an ssh

shell and issue a

service asterisk stop then a service asterisk start.

the service asterisk restart does not work for me on the x86 release.

there seems to be no way for asterisk to restart itself after a crash

or after using the cop,1 cop command.

has there been any updates to the asterisk service command

for systemd to fix this?

ken n1dot

On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,

I misread your message last night.

I just tested service asterisk restart on DIAL x86 restarts a dead

asterisk. See below.

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk

1081 ? Ssl 0:01 /usr/sbin/asterisk

1117 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk

1125 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r

Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

Created by Mark Spencer markster@digium.com

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

warranty’ for details.

This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

General Public

License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

redistribute it under

certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

=========================================================================

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does /var/run/asterisk.ctl

exist?)

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk restart

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep asterisk

1143 ? Ssl 0:00 /usr/sbin/asterisk

1171 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep asterisk

root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r

Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium, Inc. and others.

Created by Mark Spencer markster@digium.com

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type 'core show

warranty’ for details.

This is free software, with components licensed under the GNU

General Public

License version 2 and other licenses; you are welcome to

redistribute it under

certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for details.

=========================================================================

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on repeater (pid = 1143)

repeater*CLI>

73, Steve N4IRS

On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:

Steve

I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC

Observations

  1. When asterisk crashes, there is no restart or watchdog

2.this makes debugging very difficult

3.asterisk service mode restart does not seem to work

  1. in this mode remote SSH to restart is not possible

Do you have any fixes planned?

Thanks

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To try to narrow the search, what equipment do you use on your

remote bases?

Steve
···

On 12/12/2015 05:01 PM, Jeff Carrier
wrote:

    I'm curious as to why allmon would be an issue?�

I’m running 2 allmon servers which monitor up to 12 nodes with 5
remote bases and have not had issues.� What is the problem that
allmon causes?

de K0JSC

      On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM,

Kenneth Grimard n1dot1@gmail.com
wrote:

        allmon and

allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will
not

        have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash

every time

        when used.



        this is why i have taken the remote base node off the

allmon2 page’s

        on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build

also.

        i am working with dial to make the migration to new

        hardware sooner or later.



        ken n1dot







        On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
          I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the

basic rpt remote base code.

          I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in

it. I’ll have to try it.

          YMMV



          73, Steve N4IRS





          On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

            Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats

causes a Asterisk

            crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB

using the built-in

            code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But,

Asterisk wasn’t

            stable very long, frequently crashing several times a

day, depending on

            use.� Various serial communications issues with the

radio would

            -sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded

that their was

            probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.



            If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk

stability

            skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or

longer. As an

            example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems

now:

            TX time today....................................:

01:12:27.95

            TX time since system initialization..............:

87:37:42.861

            Uptime...........................................:

1336:34:22

            It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you

can see, it gets

            used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.





            73, David KB4FXC





            On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
              the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base

node

              using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2

              by the way.



              ken n1dot



              On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

                I now better understand. I'll work on something that

will solve the

                restart from crash.

                I will also look into what is causing the crash

since I also have a

                706 as a remote base.



                Thanks, Steve



                On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

                  the main issue steve is not the fact that

                  service asterisk restart does not work.



                  but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for

any reason

                  it will not restart itself. because of this i also

can not use

                  cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.



                  cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but

asterisk will

                  not restart via a watchdog script.



                  safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it

has been eliminated.

                  and you only use the asterisk service script under

systemd.

                  yes the version of the asterisk service script i

have here from the

                  dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the

                  service asterisk restart does not work.



                  it force's me to use service asterisk stop to

remove the

                  asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the

                  the service asterisk start will then work allowing

asterisk

                  to be restarted proprely.



                  I also have a node setup for remote base mode

using an

                  ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash

with it.

                  when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2

dashboard.

                  I have had to take the remote base node off of the

                  allmon2 page to stop this crashing.



                  it will do it every time too.

                  that is something with the old remote base code

                  with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.



                  this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash

would be very nice

                  where can i find a new or updated asterisk service

script.

                  can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in

the

                  dial x86 build with out having to re-install

                  dial x86 image?



                  otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial

has been

                  fairly stable. but i can make it crash under

certain conditions

                  which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access

                  the remote base node via the asterisk manager

                  interface.



                  ken n1dot







                  On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

                    As I posted below I could not recreate your

issue. is there anything

                    I'm missing?



                    73, Steve



                    root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

                    Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium,

Inc. and others.

                    Created by Mark Spencer <                        >

Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type
‘core show
warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed
under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are
welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for
details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on
repeater (pid = 4407)
repeaterCLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150
repeater
CLI> Killed
root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart
root@repeater:~# asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium,
Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type
‘core show
warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components licensed
under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you are
welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’ for
details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on
repeater (pid = 4462)
repeater*CLI>
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markster@digium.com

                      I download the dial release and installed it

just after is first

                      came out

                      that was about 4 weeks ago.



                      now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you

use the cop,1 cop

                      command

                      it will not restart is self at all. you have

to go into an ssh

                      shell and issue a

                      service asterisk stop then a service asterisk

start.

                      the service asterisk restart does not work for

me on the x86 release.

                      there seems to be no way for asterisk to

restart itself after a crash

                      or after using the cop,1 cop command.



                      has there been any updates to the asterisk

service command

                      for systemd to fix this?



                      ken n1dot







                      On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,

                        I misread your message last night.

                        I just tested service asterisk restart on

DIAL x86 restarts a dead

                        asterisk. See below.



                         ps ax | grep

asterisk
� 1081 ?� � � � Ssl� � 0:01
/usr/sbin/asterisk
� 1117 pts/0� � S+� � �0:00 grep asterisk
kill -9 1081
ps ax | grep
asterisk
� 1125 pts/0� � S+� � �0:00 grep asterisk
asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008
Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY;
type ‘core show
warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components
licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you
are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’
for details.

Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does
/var/run/asterisk.ctl
exist?)
service asterisk
restart
ps ax | grep
asterisk
� 1143 ?� � � � Ssl� � 0:00
/usr/sbin/asterisk
� 1171 pts/0� � S+� � �0:00 grep asterisk
asterisk -r
Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008
Digium, Inc. and others.
Created by Mark Spencer <>
Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY;
type ‘core show
warranty’ for details.
This is free software, with components
licensed under the GNU
General Public
License version 2 and other licenses; you
are welcome to
redistribute it under
certain conditions. Type ‘core show license’
for details.

Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running
on repeater (pid = 1143)
repeater*CLI>
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root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

markster@digium.com

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

root@repeater:/etc/init.d#

markster@digium.com

Steve

                          I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC

                          Observations

                          1. When asterisk crashes, there is no

restart or watchdog

                          2.this makes debugging very difficult

                          3.asterisk service mode restart does not

seem to work

                          4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is

not possible

                          Do you have any fixes planned?

                          Thanks

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I’ve used anything from the Kenwood G707 to commercial rigs. I currently use Motorolas and steer the channels with GPIO. I never had an issue with allmon when using the 707 we just needed tougher hardware.

···

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Jeff,

To try to narrow the search, what equipment do you use on your

remote bases?

Steve


  On 12/12/2015 05:01 PM, Jeff Carrier

wrote:

    I'm curious as to why allmon would be an issue? 

I’m running 2 allmon servers which monitor up to 12 nodes with 5
remote bases and have not had issues. What is the problem that
allmon causes?

de K0JSC

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      On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM,

Kenneth Grimard n1dot1@gmail.com
wrote:

        allmon and

allmon2 will cause an issue. if you do not use them you will
not

        have the problem steve. it can be made to cause a crash

every time

        when used.



        this is why i have taken the remote base node off the

allmon2 page’s

        on dial. and will have to do the same for the acid build

also.

        i am working with dial to make the migration to new

        hardware sooner or later.



        ken n1dot







        On 12/12/2015 2:25 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:
          I don't have any stability issues with the 706 and the

basic rpt remote base code.

          I don't need hamlib. Admittedly, I don't use Aallmon in

it. I’ll have to try it.

          YMMV



          73, Steve N4IRS





          On 12/12/2015 02:20 PM, David McGough wrote:

Hi Ken,

            Interesting that having allmon2 probe the RB stats

causes a Asterisk

            crash...Back in yesteryear I tried to run a 706mkiig RB

using the built-in

            code and never had good results--YES, it did work. But,

Asterisk wasn’t

            stable very long, frequently crashing several times a

day, depending on

            use.  Various serial communications issues with the

radio would

            -sporadically- "knock it for a loop" too. I concluded

that their was

            probably memory getting clobbered somewhere.



            If I disabled the RB command support, the Asterisk

stability

            skyrocketed--uptimes now measured in weeks, months or

longer. As an

            example, here are the stats from one of my RB systems

now:

            TX time today....................................:

01:12:27.95

            TX time since system initialization..............:

87:37:42.861

            Uptime...........................................:

1336:34:22

            It has been up 55 days without any issues....And, as you

can see, it gets

            used--But, I now use hamlib for all RB commands.





            73, David KB4FXC





            On Sat, 12 Dec 2015, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
              the crash is caused when accessing the the remote base

node

              using the asterisk manager interface via allmon2

              by the way.



              ken n1dot



              On 12/12/2015 2:02 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

                I now better understand. I'll work on something that

will solve the

                restart from crash.

                I will also look into what is causing the crash

since I also have a

                706 as a remote base.



                Thanks, Steve



                On 12/12/2015 01:50 PM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:

hi steve

                  the main issue steve is not the fact that

                  service asterisk restart does not work.



                  but the main issue is that if asterisk crashes for

any reason

                  it will not restart itself. because of this i also

can not use

                  cop,1 cop command which is asterisk restart.



                  cop,1 will cause asterisk to exit for restart but

asterisk will

                  not restart via a watchdog script.



                  safe_asterisk used to do this very nicely but it

has been eliminated.

                  and you only use the asterisk service script under

systemd.

                  yes the version of the asterisk service script i

have here from the

                  dial build from about 4 to 5 weeks ago the

                  service asterisk restart does not work.



                  it force's me to use service asterisk stop to

remove the

                  asterisk.ctl file from the /var/run and the

                  the service asterisk start will then work allowing

asterisk

                  to be restarted proprely.



                  I also have a node setup for remote base mode

using an

                  ic-706mkiig and sometimes that will cause a crash

with it.

                  when asterisk is accessed via an allmon2

dashboard.

                  I have had to take the remote base node off of the

                  allmon2 page to stop this crashing.



                  it will do it every time too.

                  that is something with the old remote base code

                  with in app_rpt.c too which has never been fixed.



                  this is why the asterisk auto restart on crash

would be very nice

                  where can i find a new or updated asterisk service

script.

                  can i get it from the rpi2 dial image and put in

the

                  dial x86 build with out having to re-install

                  dial x86 image?



                  otherwise for the most part asterisk under dial

has been

                  fairly stable. but i can make it crash under

certain conditions

                  which i try to avoid. like using allmon2 to access

                  the remote base node via the asterisk manager

                  interface.



                  ken n1dot







                  On 12/12/2015 1:01 PM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Ken,

                    As I posted below I could not recreate your

issue. is there anything

                    I'm missing?



                    73, Steve



                    root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

                    Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium,

Inc. and others.

                    Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>

                    Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type

'core show

                    warranty' for details.

                    This is free software, with components licensed

under the GNU

                    General Public

                    License version 2 and other licenses; you are

welcome to

                    redistribute it under

                    certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for

details.

                    =========================================================================


                    Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on

repeater (pid = 4407)

                    repeater*CLI> rpt cmd 2150 cop 1 2150

                    repeater*CLI> Killed



                    root@repeater:~# service asterisk restart

                    root@repeater:~# asterisk -r

                    Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008 Digium,

Inc. and others.

                    Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>

                    Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; type

'core show

                    warranty' for details.

                    This is free software, with components licensed

under the GNU

                    General Public

                    License version 2 and other licenses; you are

welcome to

                    redistribute it under

                    certain conditions. Type 'core show license' for

details.

                    =========================================================================


                    Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running on

repeater (pid = 4462)

                    repeater*CLI>







                    On 12/12/2015 11:50 AM, Kenneth Grimard wrote:
                      I download the dial release and installed it

just after is first

                      came out

                      that was about 4 weeks ago.



                      now if asterisk crash for any reason or if you

use the cop,1 cop

                      command

                      it will not restart is self at all. you have

to go into an ssh

                      shell and issue a

                      service asterisk stop then a service asterisk

start.

                      the service asterisk restart does not work for

me on the x86 release.

                      there seems to be no way for asterisk to

restart itself after a crash

                      or after using the cop,1 cop command.



                      has there been any updates to the asterisk

service command

                      for systemd to fix this?



                      ken n1dot







                      On 12/12/2015 7:16 AM, Steve Zingman wrote:

Neil,

                        I misread your message last night.

                        I just tested service asterisk restart on

DIAL x86 restarts a dead

                        asterisk. See below.



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep

asterisk

                          1081 ?        Ssl    0:01

/usr/sbin/asterisk

                          1117 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# kill -9 1081



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep

asterisk

                          1125 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r

                        Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008

Digium, Inc. and others.

                        Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>

                        Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY;

type 'core show

                        warranty' for details.

                        This is free software, with components

licensed under the GNU

                        General Public

                        License version 2 and other licenses; you

are welcome to

                        redistribute it under

                        certain conditions. Type 'core show license'

for details.

                        =========================================================================


                        Unable to connect to remote asterisk (does

/var/run/asterisk.ctl

                        exist?)



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# service asterisk

restart

                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# ps ax | grep

asterisk

                          1143 ?        Ssl    0:00

/usr/sbin/asterisk

                          1171 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep asterisk



                        root@repeater:/etc/init.d# asterisk -r

                        Asterisk 1519, Copyright (C) 1999 - 2008

Digium, Inc. and others.

                        Created by Mark Spencer <markster@digium.com>

                        Asterisk comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY;

type 'core show

                        warranty' for details.

                        This is free software, with components

licensed under the GNU

                        General Public

                        License version 2 and other licenses; you

are welcome to

                        redistribute it under

                        certain conditions. Type 'core show license'

for details.

                        =========================================================================


                        Connected to Asterisk 1519 currently running

on repeater (pid = 1143)

                        repeater*CLI>



                        73, Steve N4IRS



                        On 12/12/2015 12:44 AM, Neil k8it wrote:

Steve

                          I have been evaluating Dial on a Linux PC

                          Observations

                          1. When asterisk crashes, there is no

restart or watchdog

                          2.this makes debugging very difficult

                          3.asterisk service mode restart does not

seem to work

                          4. in this mode remote SSH to restart is

not possible

                          Do you have any fixes planned?

                          Thanks

                          73 Neil Sablatzky  K8IT

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